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    Wow, I like this site

    I know alot of you hate flash made sites, but check out this one and some of there clients. Nice stuff

    http://www.whoswestudios.com/

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    I like this one too

    http://www.whoswestudios.com/flashsite.html

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    Both annoy me. I find them both counter-intuitive to use. That's my biggest problem with flash, I always seem like I have to try and figure out what I'm supposed to do next, but with HTML's limits, I always know what I'm supposed to be doing.
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    Ah, so thats where WhosWe have gone! They've always impressed me with great Flash animation
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    The Flash is cool......If you have ten years to wait for stuff to download, it's slow even with broadband. They totally kick butt with the flash skills, but got no concept about how a website should work. Those sites (in whoswe's portfolio) are limp IMHO and not just because are overloaded with flash.
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    Very very impressive flash, but the site is not very impressive as sites go.

    Also, loading time is absolutely abhorring on that site. I have 0.5mbit broadband - my limit for waiting for a site is like 5 seconds. That's probably pretty high as broadband users go.
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    Go to http://www.whoswestudios.com/acordia/index.html and click the "Exit" link heh...
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    Site looks nice in layout and design, It loads pretty fast even on 56 k modem connection

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougBTX
    Go to http://www.whoswestudios.com/acordia/index.html and click the "Exit" link heh...
    credits??


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    see, that is what I thought to, if you click on the first link i posted, then click the splash icon, I thought it loaded REALLY fast, regardless of cablemodem. I didn't see any loading screen or nothing.

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    I would love to know how those people make the effect of showing the outline of an object, then flashing it and filling it in with the appropriate image. The effect appears on the second link I posted when you click Enter in the lower right hand corner

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    Hi,

    The flash is cool and striking. From creative point of view kudos to the designer.

    But they have not used flash to serve any purpose for the visitor. I think more attention should be given to make the visitor's stay more comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jag5311
    see, that is what I thought to, if you click on the first link i posted, then click the splash icon, I thought it loaded REALLY fast, regardless of cablemodem. I didn't see any loading screen or nothing.
    Their site loads fast. However, they are a web design company, and if you look at their portfolio, much of the work lacks a backbone. Their clients' sites don't load that fast, and have nothing going for them except really good flash. I completely deplore splash pages, they serve no purpose and are just downright annoying. Of course we were going to look at their portfolio, there wasn't much else to look at-it's most of their content.
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    Their old site was terrible, it really did load slowly, even on good connections. I'm taking their new site as a "OK, we get the load issues problem now". Looking at the date of the sites, most seem quite old (as in not this year)... perhaps there is hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougBTX
    Their old site was terrible, it really did load slowly, even on good connections. I'm taking their new site as a "OK, we get the load issues problem now". Looking at the date of the sites, most seem quite old (as in not this year)... perhaps there is hope.

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    jag5311, I love WhosWe. I've seen their work before and I like almost all of their stuff. They load just as fast if not faster than standard html sites for me. I like their layouts as well.

    IMHO, if you design with flash it should have a different layout and flow than a standard html site or else you'd use standard html. On their site in particular it makes me want to look around more to see what else they have done.

    Alot of times (not all) I seem to sense a tinge of jealousy from the "anti-flash" crowd. Don't get me wrong, sometimes people have legitimate reasons to dislike a page designed totaly in flash, but alot of times those folks need a fresh glass of "hater-aid."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhump
    Don't get me wrong, sometimes people have legitimate reasons to dislike a page designed totaly in flash, but alot of times those folks need a fresh glass of "hater-aid."
    Most of the time, that is the case. However, my citicism doesn't stem from taking a different road. The content is distintly lacking. It's boring and generic. And while not every site is just going to be chock full of content goodlyness--It should at least be presented in such a way that you want to click to see what else there is and not to see what cool flash effect comes with it. The flash should supplement the content not take it over. Absolutely no attention was paid to the actual content and what the sites were about. Content should never be an afterthought. That's my problem with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhump
    Alot of times (not all) I seem to sense a tinge of jealousy from the "anti-flash" crowd. Don't get me wrong, sometimes people have legitimate reasons to dislike a page designed totaly in flash, but alot of times those folks need a fresh glass of "hater-aid."
    I love flash in itself. However, I'm yet too see an all-flash which is better than it would have been in HTML. Flash simply has too many drawbacks in it's current form to have them outweighed by the advantages it offers. It will grow better, but as of now, I'm yet to see a single site which is better off all in flash.

    I have, however, seen some amazing uses of Flash.

    Overture holds the #1 position on my favourite flash uses list with it's "how overture works" demo.

    Overture are closely followed by Palms product tours.

    Another nice one is SpamArrests product demo. A bit cheesy, but the message gets through.

    A bloody amazing one I discovered recently is Grooves product demo. (Click "Start product demo" link).

    I've also seen a spectacular hotel booking system made in flash, but I can't recall the link.

    My point is that these things are totally impossible to do in HTML, and flash has a HUGE benefit here. However, making sites all Flash has so many drawbacks it's not worth it. It will change eventually, though, and in 3 years or so, it might be very viable to make your sites all in flash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ucahg
    Both annoy me. I find them both counter-intuitive to use. ...
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    Its Flash, most times to flasy, if its to big, its to slow.
    This site leads no where. Graphics without content.
    Most graphic artists can not write a site, most site writers cannot write graphics, as the world turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millsrd
    Its Flash, most times to flasy, if its to big, its to slow.
    This site leads no where. Graphics without content.
    Most graphic artists can not write a site, most site writers cannot write graphics, as the world turns.
    well this site writer isn't afraid to contract out my graphics.
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