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    does not play well with others frezno's Avatar
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    What can be so unique and/or precious that it hasn't already been seen a thousand times elsewhere
    and/or must be hidden?
    And: didn't everybody got an idea on 'how to...' with looking at other people work?
    For me, it's ok providing it.
    If you don't want others to see it, don't go public. Period.
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    well, the debate ends with no result...
    What'd you expect

    Use server side script to read the html etc, and create 1024x768 px images of the pages?
    ....

    Actually, it'd work if you compressed the JPEG file before you send it...

    ....

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    Wouldn't work, since you couldn't use links. How about slicing this image up into an image map? You'll have markup online, but not your original, very special, everybody-wants-it markup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coo_t2
    Develop your own web browser that fetches html/javascript and then converts it to a proprietary format. ...
    Doesn't this sound a lot like MS FrontPage + IE?

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    Yes it does!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jofa
    Doesn't this sound a lot like MS FrontPage + IE?
    frontpage + IE + MSOffice + .NET... The list builds up! infact, let me put it this way

    " The whole of microsoft in some way or the other sticks its mouth unto its own tail!
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    Wouldn't work, since you couldn't use links.
    I wasn't actually being serious... Just being sarcastic I suppose [img]images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

    but not your original, very special, everybody-wants-it markup.
    This thread is just too much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpnadig
    frontpage + IE + MSOffice + .NET... The list builds up! ...
    Eh..., no.
    What's the connection between a) FrontPage producing weird HTML etc, and IE accepting "extensions" to CSS etc, but rendering standard CSS the wrong way and, on the other hand, b) .NET using XML (standard) a lot, and C#/CLI spec being submitted to ISO?
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/ecma/

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    You could make an alertbox appear once somebody uses the mouse's right click. Then again there are other browser buttons to get to the source code. Maybe there is some library that provides us with some more browser events ?

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    You can't hide the markup. That's it.

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    The bottom line is that it is not worth it, share information is the best philosophy.

    There is one solution though, which I wouldn't recommend, but if you insist you could use one of those html crypt code programs and upload your crypted code to the server instead of the original code. It would be an administrative nightmare, and I believe a few browsers have some problems reading crypted code.

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    ... what about a bios virus via active-X that implodes the users comp 5 minutes after they read the page? course that wont stop *NIX heads ..

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    bah.. if the user have restricted the active x setting it wont work

    crypt code wont help...

    but a thing that works well is to never publish the pages
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaCha
    How about a more out of the box idea...

    You could write an xml 1.0 dtd or schema describing elements with non-html names, apply a css stylesheet to it on the browser, so that your tag called "<divider>" behaves like a "<div>" (only make the names more cryptic. Then absolutely position a clear gif 100% wide and really long (like 2000px) high. As the user scrolls, use javascript tol reposition the gif to the top of the viewable area. This way, if someone wants to copy text they can't very easily, and copying the source would mean just copying your xml.
    Probably the best idea yet, still stupid though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaheris
    You can't hide the markup. That's it.
    Exactly.
    And this fact hasn't changed the last ten years or so... Still this question re-appears every 3rd month here: disable right click?, encrypt HTML?, ...

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    where would we be without looking at other peoples HTML ?
    I don't really see the need to protect it, unless you wrote your passwords in the comments or something

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    re-appears every 3rd month here: disable right click?, encrypt HTML?, ..
    And personally I'm sick of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Livingston
    And personally I'm sick of it
    I'm sorry for that.

    My intention was not to get people sick out of it

    re-appears every 3rd month here: disable right click?, encrypt HTML?, ..
    I'm a newbie out here. So one can't expect me to know that it's already been asked
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    My perhaps limited personal experience is that anyone looking to disable display of the HTML code, and/or right click, has nothing to offer the internet anyway, excepting yet another dull and uninspiring site.

    Perhaps the problem is that a lot of newer webmasters confuse the fact that the coding of their personal copyrighted site content is NOT in itself copyrighted. So they think by hiduing the code they are protecting their intellectual right to their own property?

    People like myself only learn their way around the web by looking at other people's code, where presentation has been very well dealt with. I have never copied anyone's work, but I let it inspire me.

    As for the whole PHP issue - surely the original question is simply formed through a misconception - PHP is essentially server side, so it could never be used in such a manner anyway.
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    know that it's already been asked
    Try searching first yes ?

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    That ion cube html encrypter actually looks kinda good. Except it needs javascript to work.
    But I'm sure if someone really wanted to crack it they could.
    And I still don't see much of point in hiding Html/JS, well maybe JS if you're using a lot of it in a commercial app. But hiding HTML is just silly.
    And trying to hide JS is probably almost always silly as well.

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    Umm... If it's an commercial application in need of dHTML then I'd like to think Flash would proberly be used in more cases than none ?

    If it's that properiaty that is; excuse the bad spelling btw

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    Couldnt u jsu hide ur javascript by linkin it to an external file? i like doing that because it keeps it organized...

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    You can't hide a javascript file. the best you can do is scramble the variables and unformat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric.Coleman
    Put all your javascript in a file named .php

    Put a referrer list in there, and check referrers, so if it's not a certin domain name, it can't be downloaded and viewed...

    Then it's just <script language="Javascript" src="js.php"></script>

    I believe that would work.. but then again not sure, didn't bother to try it... but I would think it would.

    -Eric
    Hum... it seems have no sense if any user can access http://.../js.php (trusted http_referrer) and view the javascript sourcecode anyway or I didn't understand you exactly.


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