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    End of IE?

    I know I have heard the comments about IE 6.01 is the last for Internet Explorer, but what is microsoft doing after that?

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    Key here is the last standalone version of IE. IOW, you have to upgrade Windows to upgrade IE.
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    Well, I'm pretty sure there will probably be new standalone versions after the next windows release too, the way all of the press releases read it sounded more like IE7 just wouldn't work on versions of windows below longhorn... (kinda like how IE6 won't work on Win95(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
    Well, I'm pretty sure there will probably be new standalone versions after the next windows release too, the way all of the press releases read it sounded more like IE7 just wouldn't work on versions of windows below longhorn... (kinda like how IE6 won't work on Win95(
    That would be fine with me. After all, Safari doesn't work on any version of OSX below Jaguar.

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    Yeah, I'm not really seeing a problem with it...

    Plus I'll probably have an Athlon 64 by the time IE7 comes out, so i'll need me a 64bit version of Windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
    Plus I'll probably have an Athlon 64 by the time IE7 comes out, so i'll need me a 64bit version of Windows.
    It's like Tim the Toolman, only with Computers!

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    I guess.... Been looking at a Dual Opteron 240 myself. Can't beat the price at only $1800 (US). Like saving over $3000 on a similarly equipped Mac and more power since the frontside bus runs at processor speed.
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    I currently have a Dell Dimension XPS.

    240 gb Raid 0 hd
    1 gb ram
    3 ghz processor (p4 of course)

    I believe it has 8 total usb ports, 3 firewire. Raedon 9800 graphics card. Hell of a machine.

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    I believe it has 8 total usb ports
    Only 8???
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    pfft, lightweights...
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    pfft, lightweights...
    lightweights? I said only 8...

    /me has 19 usb ports on this computer (and 6 firewire -- only use firewire for MiniDV and networking)
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    I figured you had more than 8. I was referring to those among us who have fewer
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    yep 8. when in the hell am I ever going to need 8 connections at once! let alone 19. These are also what came standard. Is yours a custom built machine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
    lightweights? I said only 8...

    /me has 19 usb ports on this computer (and 6 firewire -- only use firewire for MiniDV and networking)
    What do you need 19 USB ports for? Printer, mp3 player, digicam, and 16 Foreman grills?

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    well:

    mouse, keyboard, scanner, digital camera, card reader, monitor, film scanner, printer, 2 webcams, microsoft game voice, saitek cyborg gold joystick, logitech racing wheel, logitech force feedback joystick (not hooked up ), usb flash memory stick.

    and i mean: you've gotta have a couple extras just because.
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    Thats funny

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    Your monitor gets plugged into the USB port?

    I need a new printer that can plug into usb because mine gets all confused when printing. Right now its routing through my scanner and into the back of the computer through the printer port, but everytime I print, the stupid thing decides to be done halfway through the job. That is why the usb will work

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    My monitor has a built in 4-port hub, as well as allowing you to control all the monitors features from a windows control panel.
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    Bounce up and down just like a clown.
    Everyone knows its Slinky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jag5311
    yep 8. when in the hell am I ever going to need 8 connections at once! let alone 19. These are also what came standard. Is yours a custom built machine?
    Yes mine is custom built, I don't think I could live with a pre-built machine.
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    Damn. That is awesome.

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    With 6 being the last version of IE released until the next Windows release, we're looking at several years of living with IE6 as the de facto browser in the world. I've heard it could be up to four or five years. Does MS expect everybody to just "sit tight" during this period, or will alternative browsers fill the vacuum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snafu
    With 6 being the last version of IE released until the next Windows release, we're looking at several years of living with IE6 as the de facto browser in the world. I've heard it could be up to four or five years. Does MS expect everybody to just "sit tight" during this period, or will alternative browsers fill the vacuum?
    Actually, it's only about another 18 months until Longhorn (the next version of Windows) is released (the expected release date is early in 2005). However, I think you got your "4 year" estimate from the fact that IE6 was first released in mid-2001. That would make it about 4 years between the release of IE6 and whatever browser MS decides to include in Longhorn. And unfortunately, I don't think alternative browsers will fill the vaccuum. Maybe they'll take some share away from MS like IE did from Netscape's years of inactivity, but I doubt it will happen to the same degree because IE is just about the only browser that comes preinstalled on all PCs.

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    What I find most irritating is that I'm in a position to buy a new computer in the next couple of months. Since Longhorn is going to require all new hardware, I'm very wary of throwing my money away on a Windows PC that will be obsolete in less than 2 years. I think MS is holding back more than browser development with this move to be honest.

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    Just something to mention. I have a friend who works for Microsoft, in there gaming 3d department, but he has some insider info that he won't release to me, but supposidly there are some BIG things going on over there that will supposidly change how we view programs and websites. I don't know what it is, but that is what he told me

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    in a nutshell, buy the stock He feels it may be going back up to its original levels

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    I think MS is holding back more than browser development with this move to be honest.
    My understanding from reading various sources is that by version 6 the IE codebase was spaghetti, in that they hit a wall with further development, just like the Netscape codebase as of version 4. MS is thus probably rebuilding the thing from scratch. This explains not only their apparent refusal to implement some obvious web standards, for example CSS fixed positioning or the :target pseudo-class, either of which would revolutionize web design, but would explain why many long-running bugs go unfixed and why they don't continue to release new versions of the browser. MS's browser department is probably in a frenzy trying to sync with the Longhorn date, and could conceivably even cause delays in the release.


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