Simlar Pay Pal Alternatives ?

**bradsickskater** · Sep 16, 2003, 06:33

Is there any pay pal like alternatives where the customer does not have to sign up for paypal !?
Pay Pal would be amazing if the customer did not have to sign up!
In my opinion it will drive a lot of people away. Is there any simllar systems without the needed signup?
Thanks
Brad

**DeNasio** · Sep 16, 2003, 09:25

Originally Posted by bradsickskater

Is there any pay pal like alternatives where the customer does not have to sign up for paypal !?
Pay Pal would be amazing if the customer did not have to sign up!
In my opinion it will drive a lot of people away. Is there any simllar systems without the needed signup?
Thanks
Brad

http://www.2checkout.com/
http://www.stormpay.com

**JonPKibble** · Sep 16, 2003, 17:05

PaySystems.com is good.

**saponifier** · Sep 17, 2003, 07:05

eSellerate.net has been great!

Kat

**dethfire** · Sep 17, 2003, 08:09

Originally Posted by bradsickskater

Is there any pay pal like alternatives where the customer does not have to sign up for paypal !?
Pay Pal would be amazing if the customer did not have to sign up!
In my opinion it will drive a lot of people away. Is there any simllar systems without the needed signup?
Thanks
Brad

the customer does not have to sign up

**bradsickskater** · Sep 17, 2003, 10:52

hey PaySystems.com sounds great is it really as good as it sounds? Does it work the same as pay pal sounds like it from wot im reading,
How long does it take for them to transfer the money from ur paysystems account (if u have one) to ur bank account ?
Thanks alot for telling me about this
once i get a few more peoples views and opinions on it i might go for it sounds much better then paypal !!

**bradsickskater** · Sep 17, 2003, 11:00

man **** set up fee init !

**JonPKibble** · Sep 17, 2003, 15:01

To use PayPal, a person has to have an account with PayPal. Don't believe it? Go to a site and try buying something without having an account. It won't let you. It will ask you to register.

PaySystems is a third party credit card processor. When a person buys something from your site with PaySystems it is just like a regular credit card gateway. Their setup fee is $49 and you are required to sign a merchant agreement. Payment is remitted weekly via direct deposit.

**bradsickskater** · Sep 17, 2003, 15:26

looks asif stormpay is the best ATM as its free to join up, can it be used in the uk and can funds be transfered easy enough to UK banks?
What about the shopping cart? do they provide it or buy buttons?
Thanks
Brad

**Backlinker1** · Sep 18, 2003, 04:02

Looking at it from the other side of the fence for a moment. I had to pay for something with paypal for the first time the other day. I had to join up but I cannot say it was much of a problem. Quick and easy.

**bradsickskater** · Sep 18, 2003, 08:02

but then again it will put a lot of people off

**JonPKibble** · Sep 18, 2003, 08:02

I've never had any complaints on my end.

**bradsickskater** · Sep 18, 2003, 08:10

Well in my opinion it would put me off buying with paypal having to sign up especialy if i was a n00bish computer user. Also isnt there somthing like u have to waite untill you get a statment with a number on to verify ur account or somthing so u can make ordrers over $xxx ?
As i can remember i was waiting for a customer to get this number off his CC statment before he could order

**Bleys** · Sep 18, 2003, 10:00

You should offer more than one method of payment on your site. Allow your users to pay with PayPal, PaySystems, and StormPay, if those are the three you like. Give customers they option to use what they feel most comfortable with.

**english-test.net** · Sep 19, 2003, 13:31

So, who of you can tell me what the best solution is: We want to offer an eback and charge for it. Any suggestions?

**bradsickskater** · Sep 20, 2003, 12:54

what's and eback?
Thanks

**english-test.net** · Sep 20, 2003, 13:13

Pardon, this was a typo. It should read ebook.

**lucozade** · Oct 15, 2003, 01:41

i would be interested to know more about paysystems and stormpay as well. Both looks good but how about chargeback ratio? Which one is better in that respect?

**lucozade** · Oct 15, 2003, 01:59

hm, i also just found Stormpay charges quite expensively on client's side if they use cc:

Deposit Options
Money Order: Free
Bank Wire: $15
E-Gold: 3%
NetPay: 3%
E-Check: $2.00
Credit Card: 15% Plus $1.25
Walk-In Funding: Varies
Other Options: Varies

**WebCrawler** · Oct 15, 2003, 02:31

Originally Posted by bradsickskater

Is there any pay pal like alternatives where the customer does not have to sign up for paypal !?
Pay Pal would be amazing if the customer did not have to sign up!
In my opinion it will drive a lot of people away. Is there any simllar systems without the needed signup?
Thanks
Brad

If you alreday registerd with PayPal, upgrade it to 'Premium Account' you will get many facilities but above them is "Payment Via Credit Card" which you can paste in your site.

I found one of the biggest problem for New PayPal member is that, after registration, a member have to wait 4 days to get that 4 digit (****) bill number issued in your bank.

The bottom point, is that, whatever may be the case, new member registration is applicable in anywhere, though PayPal took 4 days for verification.

I am wondering are there any sites where we dont have to register ourself ???? please post me to get answer

**Backlinker1** · Oct 15, 2003, 05:47

Does this 4 fig number apply for all sales or only if what you are buying is over a certain amount ? I signed up recently to pay for something costing $30. the process only took a few seconds. I didn't have to wait for any number but I noticed the maximum I could spend was ( I think ) $750. I have since paid for two other things using paypal, both in the $30 region, and each amount comes of the $750 leaving a smaller amount. What happens when this virtual 750 runs out I dont know...

**prairieweb** · Oct 15, 2003, 07:29

Has anybody checked into ikobo.com?

**ozgression** · Oct 15, 2003, 17:42

Thinking about using them, they are similar to paypal and dont require a user to sign-up to pay. They also offer the debit card which can be used anyway in the world.

My only concern is the little amount of information available outside their own site.

**Navigator** · Oct 17, 2003, 10:21

Hi,
I am also about to open a site, and have done some research with Ikobo.com. It seems to be very nice and strong, specially for international (non-u.s.) accounts.
I have heard they are growing a lot ! have any one of you used it ?

**prairieweb** · Oct 17, 2003, 12:09

I emailed their customer service and I've been told their shopping cart feature will be activated at the end of October.

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