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    WHOA! Major problem here

    Just got done doing some work to my style sheets, went ahead and uploaded them along with the htm file I am applying them to, and in IE 6.0, when I go to the site, it acts as if stylesheets are disabled, but in Opera, Mozilla, Firebird, it looks just fine.

    Now, it only affects the prefered styled sheet for onload. If you click one of the styles, it loads it fine. So why would it be doing this.

    http://www.btkdesigns.com/newbtk/index2.htm

    Thanks alot
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    I'm using IE6 and the page looks fine to me.

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    Huh, that is weird. In your IE6, if you click on the Dark Gold link, do all those style links at the top appear to take on the background color of the links in the paragraph below.

    It doesn't appear this way in any other browsers.

    Thanks

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    works for me now to. Very strange. I wonder if it was a cookie situation?

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    In your IE6, if you click on the Dark Gold link, do all those style links at the top appear to take on the background color of the links in the paragraph below.
    Yes, apart from the Dark Gold, the others have a light pinkish/brown colour similar to the browser name links below.

    I've looked at it in Opera 7 and unlike IE, all four style links take on the same style colour. Just to confuse the issue, Mozilla Firebird 0.6 doesn't change styles at all.

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    Have you been fiddling between my last post and now? IE now shows the same colour for the style links just like Opera was doing above.

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    do you mean, before a hover, the links all now share the same background color?

    I did fiddle a few minutes ago, yes.

    Its dark gold that gives me a nasty background color where the style links are

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    here is a pic that shows what I am seeing

    http://www.btkdesigns.com/darkgold.jpg

    I have every set of links on the page isolated, so I can't figure out why its trying to do this.

    Thanks
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    I'm afraid that your pic is what I'm seeing again.

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    well, I have fixed it. I guess when having multiple sets of links that you want different attributes to on one page, its best to just make a class for your set and apply them to the actual links.

    so I had to go the route of

    a.columns:link, a.columns:visited blahb lah

    and then do this, <a href="#" class="columns">

    is doing that the same as having a class written as this

    .columns a:link instead of a.columns:link ?

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    .columns a:link means that any unvisited links nested within a parent element of class "columns", will be affected by your rule, e.g:

    Code:
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    <div class = "columns">
      <a href = "#">Link 1</a>
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    .columns a:link {color: #ffff00 }
    a.columns:link means that any unvisited links of class "columns" will be affected by your rule, as in your example code above.

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    Ok, I am back to square one. Here is what I am seeing when I go directly to

    http://www.btkdesigns.com/newbtk/index2.htm

    http://www.btkdesigns.com/iemessup.gif

    Its only with IE, but its not setting the style sheet properly. If you click one of the styles, yea, it works fine, but not on the initial load. Very strange

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    It currently looks ok for me!

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    Please feel free to pursue my site for any information you may feel is helpful.
    PS I just noticed this typo on your site I did try chasing the site, but in the end I gave up and perused it instead!

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    Thanks Rudgej



    Did you try turning off your cookies, it might be showing up that way because that was teh last style you picked before going to my site.

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    When I'm fiddling with my css, it is sufficient just to do CTRL-F5 to make IE reget everything. Your site still looks ok after this. PS Did you try CTRL-F5 with your IE?

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    Ok, ran into another problem. Everything else has been fixed.

    If you go to http://www.btkdesigns.com/newbtk/index2.htm then choose a style, anything but green. Then go to PORTFOLIO, then GALLERY. The styles hold true for every page (at least on my side) except when going to the gallery page. I can't figure out why.

    Anyone know?

    also on that GALLERY page, under the images it says ADVERTISING WORK. That is an h4 tag, yet the text looks just as big as an h2. I thought, by default, h4 were smaller text.
    Thanks
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    Hi,

    I think you have a conflict bewteen all those javascripts on your page. If you take out the function from your <body onload=" etc...> then your style changer works ok. As I'm not into javascript much perhaps someone else can help. (Or get the post moved to the javascript section.)

    The h4 tag is smaller than the H2 tag on my system. Just put an H2 tag above and you can see the difference.

    Paul

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    But it is bigger. The advertising section is held within the h4 tag, and the GALLERY and IMAGES are held within h2 tags. Now, mind you, this is on IE that I am having the problem.

    Here is an image with IE 6
    http://www.btkdesigns.com/advertising.jpg

    I mean, its not the end of the world, just something of an annoyance.

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    Well, I fixed the color thing. I took the javascript function for styleswitcher.js and moved it as the last thing to load in the head. It was the first.

    Still, the h4 h2 thing is annoying. I need to stop being a perfectionist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jag5311
    Still, the h4 h2 thing is annoying. I need to stop being a perfectionist.
    Why not explicitly style the h2 & h4 in your CSS instead of relying on default browser behavior? This will ensure that your site looks the same in each browser.

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    [quote]
    Here is an image with IE 6
    [/code]

    Perhaps I need stronger glasses but the Advertising Work text definitely looks smaller than the Gallery text on that image you supplied!!!

    I've just cut and pasted them side by side in fireworks and thet are definitely different sizes (not much in it though.)

    Just do what Tygger2512 says above and then you'll be happy

    Paul

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    Alright, you guys twisted my arm, I will explicitly change them.

    However, I just did a side by side comparison just to prove my point about the different sizes. Its a comparison between mozilla and IE

    http://www.btkdesigns.com/compare1.jpg

    Thanks for the help
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    Damnit!

    Now when I view http://www.btkdesigns.com/newbtk/gallery.htm I get the stupid disabled style sheets view (not disabled, but not active), where all I see is words, links, and images. No style though . This is in Mozilla and Firebird ONLY.

    I mean, cmon, picking out your first childs nameisn't this hard to get right, but for a web designer, you have to jump through 1000 hoops to make everything happy.

    "You want a good fluid design, don't use javascript so you can make all browsers happy".

    How about, design the browsers to be able to handle these things, even if it is complicated javascript or whatever.

    I understand the standards situation and all the conforming, but at times I feel like all the nice twirks that are available for browsers, whether its javascript, dom, dhtml, or whatever is getting pulled back so that browsers will "conform"

    I know everyone hates IE, and it does have alot of IE only stuff, but I hope in the future other browsers will support that IE only stuff because some of it seems useful and cool.

    Sorry, I am venting, don't take anything I just said too personal if you feel offended, it wasn't meant to offend anyone, I am just talking to myself in a way.

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    I know everyone hates IE
    i don't
    Who walks the stairs without a care
    It shoots so high in the sky.
    Bounce up and down just like a clown.
    Everyone knows its Slinky.


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