I mean, what in the hell is the purpose of having dozens of different browsers if they are just going to take your code and sh*t on it.

I have a basic example that Opera cannot render the margins correctly.

I have an example page here where I just want the footer to show up above the bottom of the white box. I have added colored borders for my own sanity of trying to apply the correct margins to the proper divs.

You can check my css also.

http://www.btkdesigns.com/btkdesigns...signs-damn.htm

http://www.btkdesigns.com/btkdesigns...esignsdamn.css

Thanks
Bryan

EDIT------

ok, nevermind, it does show up fine. When using Dreamweaver, and previewing from there, it always looks a little different