POPUP WITHOUT ANYTHING IN <HEAD>

**ev!** · Aug 23, 2003, 14:29

I need to make an automatic popup window for my site but i dont want to place any code in the <HEAD></HEAD> tags.
Is this even possible?

**Jeff Lange** · Aug 23, 2003, 14:34

I am confused as to what you mean

care to explain more?

**SJH** · Aug 23, 2003, 14:34

Yup.

HTML Code:

<body onload="javascript:window.open('http://www.example.com');">

Should work

-Sam

**SJH** · Aug 23, 2003, 14:35

Of course, remembering to delete the space between java and script

-Sam

**ev!** · Aug 23, 2003, 17:16

thanks, that worked

Anyway of making it popup behind the existing window or making custom size or anything this way?

**Poop_Shoot** · Aug 23, 2003, 17:29

Change height and width like this:
window.open('html.html','winName','height=200,width=200');

Not sure but u could try this to make it pop up behind:
<body onload="var win=window.open('open.html','winName','height=200,width=200');win.blur();">
Yup it seems to work for me!

**Arkkimaagi** · Aug 24, 2003, 00:12

Popunders are evil, luckily my browser kills them. I'd advise not to use them.

**vgarcia** · Aug 24, 2003, 05:51

Originally Posted by Arkkimaagi

Popunders are evil, luckily my browser kills them. I'd advise not to use them.

IMO they're fine as long as you can see the message somewhere else. Dell's special offers on their site is a good example. It pops up when you first get to the site, but you can see the special offers in other places as well

**Bill Posters** · Aug 24, 2003, 05:55

Originally Posted by Devilware.net

HTML Code:

<body onload="javascript:window.open('http://www.example.com');">

onload is by its very nature a javascript event, so the use of javascript: is entirely redundant.

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Originally Posted by Poop_Shoot

<body onload="var win=window.open('open.html','winName','height=200,width=200');win.blur();">
Yup it seems to work for me!

It would be much, *much* better to move the guts of the popup script into an embedded or external javascript, wrap it in a function and simply call the function in the onload event.

Using inline javascript in your markup like that is only making extra work for yourself and anyone else may work on or maintain the site.

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Ev!, if you *really* feel you have to use an automatic popup, then don't rely on it as the only way to trigger the new window.
Offer a link/button that will trigger the popup for those of us who have all automatic popups prevented by default.

It's far from ideal (or popular) to use popups to house essential site content or navigation.
Use them if you want, but be aware of the problems and potential problems that come with them.

**SJH** · Aug 24, 2003, 06:06

Originally Posted by Bill Posters

onload is by its very nature a javascript event, so the use of java script: is entirely redundant.

Sorry, it's a force of habit. My first HTML book told me to do it (albeit about 5 years ago)

-Sam

**Poop_Shoot** · Aug 24, 2003, 06:16

She asked for it on onload I never said that inline javascript! Or anything inline for that matter is a good idea! I was just responding to the question!

**Bill Posters** · Aug 24, 2003, 06:54

No need to go on the defensive, poop_shoot. We're all aiming for the same thing.

But, just out of curiosity, why did you offer/suggest a method that you thought wasn't a good idea?
Why not show the method as you presumably would have done it yourself?

Like I say, I'm not having a pop at you, just curious.

**Poop_Shoot** · Aug 24, 2003, 07:28

Well Ev Said!

I need to make an automatic popup window for my site but i dont want to place any code in the <HEAD></HEAD> tags.

Without any code in the head tag I suppose that I could have done an extenal JS then link to it in the body calling it with a window.onload=function()! but generaly when trying to answer someones post I try to stick to what the asked for!

**Bill Posters** · Aug 24, 2003, 09:28

Fair enough. I'd still be inclined to mention the embedded or external method and explain how and why it is better, but I totally appreciate where you're coming from.

Fwiw, by 'inline' javascript I was only referring to placing the guts of a javascript in the markup.

I think that <body onload="popupFunction();"> is still acceptable enough to keep even the most anooyingly pedantic of members (such as myself) quiet.

**Poop_Shoot** · Aug 24, 2003, 11:24

This brings up a question is a bookmarklet concidered inline javascript!

Sorry Bill if I sounded angry in my post you caught me b4 my morning coffee!

**Bill Posters** · Aug 24, 2003, 22:59

If that's how you are *before* your morning caffeine hit, then I'll be even more inclined to steer clear of you *afterwards*.

Fwiw, I would imagine that a bookmarklet woudn't be considered as inline javascript as it's not contained inside the markup itself, whichi imho, would be the deciding factor.
If the ultimate aim is separate markup, code and styling, then you can't get much better than javascript bookmarklets. They are so separate that they aren't even contained anywhere within the site's own files.

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