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    we;'re barely getting any power, i think we're the only grid thats active
    indian point is still down i dont know where we're suckin gpower from. my main machine wont even boot the entire house just kinda dies..im on my laptop now. its crazy me and my dad were directing traffic at a local intersection till teh poilice came.


    and i highly doubt its demand, it was much worse last summer and we didnt have peoblems. something upstate near canada, and since this entire areas kinda ocnnected it failed. ok laptop battery is gonna die, see yall later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis
    This 3 major cities in Canada, NYC, Boston, DC, Detroit, etc. Its not just a basic power failure.
    No, Boston and most of New England are unaffected by this.






    Any estimate how many people lost power total? Must be tens of millions.
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    10 minutes north of us is a total blackout. Cleveland and all the suburbs. We had no interuption of power at all in my town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbond
    Maybe I'm not well informed on this issue, but I find it a bit strange that such a large area is dependent on one source of energy without a backup solution.

    Especially since there has been speculation in the past about terrorist attacks on power plants, one would expect the government to see that as one extra argument to have backup plans in place for this area.
    Who needs terrorists when the power goes out on it's own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmerB
    10 minutes north of us is a total blackout. Cleveland and all the suburbs. We had no interuption of power at all in my town.

    Lucky! I'm glad to hear you didn't get hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmann
    And Aaron, I agree with all of the divisions of the grid but since one section of the grid usually depends on another, this thing is like dominos.
    Not necessarily. My grid, for instance, disconnected from the Niagara Mohawk power grid as a safety valve and so we weren't affected.

    Travis, DC wasn't affected either.
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    There is going to be a major baby boom in 9 months. 50 million people without power? What else is there to do?

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    Ahh so you all do have safety/relief lines... I was wondering if more of the area up there had them.... Obviously not enough did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmerB
    There is going to be a major baby boom in 9 months. 50 million people without power? What else is there to do?
    Fishing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmerB
    There is going to be a major baby boom in 9 months. 50 million people without power? What else is there to do? [img]images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

    So true, and thank goodness I don't have the equipment to contribute to the boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by URAlly
    So true, and thank goodness I don't have the equipment to contribute to the boom.
    Umm....aw forget it

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    My family in detriot called down here and their power is out due to this failure, they also dont have water since they have to have a pump that uses power to bring water into the house.

    They got cut off the phone due to the phone system being overloaded.

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    Great, now the water is going out as well.

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    the water pumping stations run on electricity...
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    Muhahahaha. I'm in PA which only part of lost power. I didn't. But I know the local Comcast center has backup generators, so the cable lines would've stayed on. In which case, I've got 8 hours of internet time if power were to go out here, on good ol' UPS, and 3 2.5 hour batteries for my laptop. No stinky generators in my house.

    However, my favorite UT2003 server is down It's in New York and disappeared off the net at about 10 after 4.

    Level3 backbone in NY seems to be functioning fine though.

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    God...I would hope Level3 would have a generator backup...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traceroute to Canada
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    I'm located in Michigan, and am surrounded by people who have lost their power prety much.

    I kind of find it humerous. I live a bit out in the sticks and lose power monthly ussually. Most of the time for a few hours, but twice this year we've lost it for over twenty-four.

    Now these people are crying because they don't have air conditioning. I don't even have air conditioning. They'll survive.

    On a more serious note, this is outrageous. A single plant being overloaded should not effect five seperate states. I don't care what they say. What it comes down to is that it's a piss poor system that was invented by some piss poor engineers. We are a power dependent society. Security systems to important things are out. Hospitals can only run generators for so long. We've got thousands upon thousands of people in large cities walking through the middle of streets.

    Hopefully, something like this will make these people reconsider their precious system.

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    YEah some people are about to get castrated. Glad it's not me.
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    Every time power companies tried to expand so that current lines don't get overloaded, citizens forced local governments into stopping it or complaining about electrical fields being dangerous when they were later proven wrong...nobody wants the companies to expand even though they do. Sorry if running high voltage lines requires those big towers...oh well!

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    Wasn't just the USA this happened to friend. Don't start country bashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Grossman
    Every time power companies tried to expand so that current lines don't get overloaded, citizens forced local governments into stopping it or complaining about electrical fields being dangerous when they were later proven wrong...nobody wants the companies to expand even though they do. Sorry if running high voltage lines requires those big towers...oh well!
    That hasn't been entirely ruled out just yet. However, it's not all the electric company's fault either. I think people need to work together to come up with better solutions than I don't want you here and then have no power from overloading.

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    I just think the USA should concentrate on making sure stuff like this doesn't happen. Isn't that why we pay taxes?

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    It's not really the govt, other than they don't really regulate it like it should - it's like Dan said, ppl don't want that stuff next to their house, so they stop it from being built at all, and then run every appliance known to man usually at once, and wonder why they end up with no power. It's a human problem, not neccesarily a govt one.
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    No. Well, you can blame it on the government...you can blame everything you want on it...but it's not their responsibility to make every industry plan for the future and fight its customers to do so. It's the fault of the power companies, and the fault of consumers who need to get over their problems with what's necessary to provide power.


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