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    I personally find right-aligned navigation to be extremely unusable. They seem very unintuitive, and I take more time going through them than their left-aligned counterparts. The scrollbar means nothing to me, I have a scrolling mouse, and even if I don't use that I generally use keyboard arrows over the scrollbar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucahg
    I personally find right-aligned navigation to be extremely unusable. They seem very unintuitive, and I take more time going through them than their left-aligned counterparts. The scrollbar means nothing to me, I have a scrolling mouse, and even if I don't use that I generally use keyboard arrows over the scrollbar.
    I would like to introduce a web site with a right navigation. Worth to have a look at:

    http://www.webstyleguide.com

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    A right aligned menu on a web page requires frequent abduction of the radiocarpal joint which can exacerbate joint problems such as rheumatoid arthritis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane.uk
    A right aligned menu on a web page requires frequent abduction of the radiocarpal joint which can exacerbate joint problems such as rheumatoid arthritis.
    I liked that hurricane!!!!

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    Look it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane.uk
    A right aligned menu on a web page requires frequent abduction of the radiocarpal joint which can exacerbate joint problems such as rheumatoid arthritis.
    Don't ye bend yer wrist as much with a left hand menu?? Or any menu or that matter?

    Even, wouldn't it be less with a right hand menu assumming no scrollweel? And if there is a scrollweel, how would there be a difference anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougBTX
    Don't ye bend yer wrist as much with a left hand menu?? Or any menu or that matter?
    It's not the bending of the wrist, but the direction in which you do it. With the elbow bent the wrist is naturally more inclined towards adduction rather than abduction (adduction = moving along the plane of motion towards the body, abduction moving away from the body, or more accurately the midline of the trunk).

    Even, wouldn't it be less with a right hand menu assumming no scrollweel? And if there is a scrollweel, how would there be a difference anyway?
    The distance to move might be less, but the stress on the joint is greater because it's going against the natural alignment of the joint when the elbow is bent. If you straighten your arm then the difference in effect between adduction and abduction becomes minimised - but I don't know many people who are comfotable with straight armed mouse use.

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    That is assuming the user is right-handed, and mousing but still it's an interesting and valid argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhtmlcoder
    That is assuming the user is right-handed,
    Yep. The majority are - but even so, there's a very significant amount of left handers about. Maybe a better solution would be a style switcher, give the users the option to set the alignment themselves.

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    Yep, see where you are comming from. Have to say that I move my mouse with the tips of my fingers, but someone with arthritis probably wouldn't do that. (I have big hands too )

    Perhaps that should go down as a design mistake on the part of Windows/Mac etc too then, having scrollbars on the right... Though I think that can be changed, I forget how.

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    If I got you right guys, I should make two designs:

    One for left hand users and one for right hand users?

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    Well, a left handed gear shift may seem more usable for a left handed person, but in truth it might not be because most left-handed drivers would already be used to shifting with the right hand.

    That's another factor in this whole debate. As we sit here today, left side and top side are greatly dominant over right side navigation. As a result, I'd expect users to be used to left side navigation and expect it more than right side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webnauts
    If I got you right guys, I should make two designs:
    One for left hand users and one for right hand users?
    You could trial it, then check your server logs to see if both were getting used consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsm
    Well, a left handed gear shift may seem more usable for a left handed person, but in truth it might not be because most left-handed drivers would already be used to shifting with the right hand.

    That's another factor in this whole debate. As we sit here today, left side and top side are greatly dominant over right side navigation. As a result, I'd expect users to be used to left side navigation and expect it more than right side.
    I agree with the getting used to things being a certain way, we do - same with gear sticks, they're on the left over here and as a right handed person I prefer that too. Though I think I'd struggle with it if I was left handed, I'd prefer my dominant hand to remain in control of the steering wheel

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane.uk
    You could trial it, then check your server logs to see if both were getting used consistently.
    I am in the planning phase of the redesign of my web site. And one thing is already decided: "The Navigation of the pages will be on the Top"!!!

    So, as you see, I do not need to choose between left and right. I thought of implementing two sites, one with left navigation and one site with right navigation. But I am happily out of that DILEMMA!

    But after all, I guess that usability is over-valued in comparison to accessibility, while it is clear that if I cant access a web site, how can I use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webnauts
    I am in the planning phase of the redesign of my web site. And one thing is already decided: "The Navigation of the pages will be on the Top"!!!


    Usability Guideline: Use the right margin for the Web site's main index.
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    In case someone is interested in the establishment of Web Style Standards, and will like to support that, will choose the option: "RIGHT".
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    I still think that the navigation on the right would be more usable:

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane.uk
    ![img]images/smilies/eek.gif[/img]



    [img]images/smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
    Hurricane, that is what I am spreading arround, but no one understands that! I am glad we have the same oppinion...

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    I find right navigation is much easier/conveinment for my lazy hand

    Its more comfortable on my hand, but taxing on my brain that keeps thinking that the navigation is gonna be on the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni
    I find right navigation is much easier/conveinment for my lazy hand [img]images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

    Its more comfortable on my hand, but taxing on my brain that keeps thinking that the navigation is gonna be on the left.
    I will change my oppinion, if the browsers will build a scrollbar on the left!

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    I mean, my (a) screen is not so big a menu is hard to find wherever it is??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougBTX
    I mean, my (a) screen is not so big a menu is hard to find wherever it is??

    Douglas
    What do you have for a screen?

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