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    The ads

    I was just referred here and it seems like a really nice comunity for developers but what's up with the enormous ads in the sub forums? I realise you've gotta have sponsors but that's a little over the top don't you think? Why not just make an ad of the whole page and be done with it?

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    It's not distracting at all. Much less so than random banners or whatnot. No popups, no banners, and ads specific to the area you're viewing. Seems almost like perfection to me

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    Not distracting at all? Come on now, you know as well as I do, that the whole point of placing the ad there is for it to be as distracting as possible.

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    I too find them rather annoying and think they are way too big - I always have to scroll down to get to where I want to be. I also understand that it is a necessary evil and could be a lot more invasive. At least the ads aren't blinking and flashing. I've learned to live with it because what I get from these forums makes it more than worth the irritation.
    PS. I have yet to read or respond to one of these ads.

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    No, not distracting at all.

    Sorry, but coming from WebhostingTalk, Yahoo Groups/Chat and various other communities, the ads here are downright heavanly.

    You are totally entitled to your opinion though

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    Btw, if you have ideas for delivery quality ads in a better format, we'd love to hear them!

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    I also agree, not distracting at all.
    Who walks the stairs without a care
    It shoots so high in the sky.
    Bounce up and down just like a clown.
    Everyone knows its Slinky.

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    I kind of like 'em.

    Granted, I've never really clicked an ad, but they're not invasive in the least. I don't even notice them anymore.

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    I was just on 800x600, 15in monitor a few minutes ago...and the adds seemed much more intrusive.

    Now, on 1024x768...I barely even notice them.

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    I rarely see them since I use the arrow to see the newest message. It skips right past them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni
    I was just on 800x600, 15in monitor a few minutes ago...and the adds seemed much more intrusive.
    Yes, that is my configuration and the ads take up a LOT of space at the top.
    Quote Originally Posted by PalmerB
    I rarely see them since I use the arrow to see the newest message. It skips right past them.
    I do that a lot too and it helps. But there are times I need to see ALL the threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy W.
    Btw, if you have ideas for delivery quality ads in a better format, we'd love to hear them!
    Well since you claim that they're not meant to be distracting (which both you and I know is a lie since the whole point of any ad is for it to be distracting) you might as well put them at the bottom of the "forumdisplay.php" and "showthread.php". It would be really interesting to hear what your reason is for not being willing to do so.

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    There's a difference between "viewed" and "distracting". There are also similarities. :-)

    When you visit a page, you probably have a goal in mind, reading a thread, finding a product, etc. Although a page may have many other content and links, those are all, in a sense, distractions from achieving your specific goal. On this page, for example, the header and the sitepoint logo may be considered a distraction. However, the sitepoint logo is an important page element because it helps the viewer see where they are in the site.

    More subtly, the ad is also an important page element. The ads must be seen or Sitepoint wouldn't be able to pay their bills. If the ads were at the bottom of the page, for the most part they would not be seen. Obviously not very appealing to advertisers and by extension, Sitepoint.

    The ads are larger than many. However, the ads are targeted. No offers for free DVD's or casinos here! Also, the ads are not animated... it is a fact that the motion is quite distracting and I for wish that more sites would draw a line and prohibit animated or flashing ads. Plus, a lot of the ads are largely composed of HTML rather than one large image. This helps reduce page load time. My impression is that Sitepoint made these unique changes to the ad size and format to add value to their advertising space, meaning that they don't have to resort to bandwidth-heavy ads, flashing banners or pop-ups or other evilness. :-)

    Back to the topic of distraction, does the ad keep you from achieving your goals on the page? Do you find yourself unable to concentrate on reading the thread content because your eyes are repeatedly drawn up to the ad? Do you find it difficult to locate the thread content because the ad is so large that it makes browsing confusing? In my mind, these questions mark the difference between an ad being "visible" and "distracting".

    Just my opinion on the topic, by the way! I have no say or inside information about Sitepoint's advertising nor do I directly profit in from their ads. :-)
    Using your unpaid time to add free content to SitePoint Pty Ltd's portfolio?

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    Well, ok, not so much distracting as annyoing as hell. Anyway it's just feedback.

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    Hi oddish,

    Thanks for the feedback.

    May I ask, which monitor resolution are you using?

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    I'm using 1280x960, but I have to admit that now that I've gotten used to the extra scrolling at the beginning of the pages, I think I can live with it. I think it's just something one has to get used to.

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    Lightbulb an ambassador is an honest man sent to lie abroad for the commonwealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Oddish
    both you and I know [your "claim"] is a lie
    not that it's any of mmy business, but that wording seems a little harsh, even if it wasn't meant to be

    just mmy $26.52

    Which makes life itself a lie,
    Flattering dust with eternity.

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    I think the ads are fine. They don't distract me much, and I found FindMyHosting.com through them!
    They could be a tad smaller, though.


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