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    Discussion thread for HTML Utopia - Designing Without Tables Using CSS - Parts 1 and 2

    This is a dedicated thread for discussing the SitePoint article 'HTML Utopia - Designing Without Tables Using CSS - Parts 1 and 2'

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    Great article. Let's you know that there ARE ways to get round browser specific problems. But surely the easiest way is to stop supporting older versions as much and 'force' folk to upgrade. It really is painless and worth it. CSS for the foreseeable future is the way to go... tables? Yeah, I use them a lot but will be getting shot of them as soon as I get to grips with positioning using CSS.

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    Great article. CSS is the way to go and those who are still lagging behind with older browsers really need to get their act together and upgrade. You're being left at the starting post and everyone else is way ahead of you.

    Currently I use a lot of tables but that will be corrected in the coming weeks and for those who view my site with older browsers? Well, I'll code it for you but still, you need to upgrade fast!!!

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    nice article, would have been nice if it had taught us a css trick or two tho.. :P
    Fonkuscious say: Sink a foot in into my code and stub your toe

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    This article was the inspiration for our latest book which covers more CSS tips and tricks. It also has a full CSS reference guide at the back of the book, so you'll never get stuck when using CSS.

    http://www.sitepoint.com/books/css1/
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    This article is a sham. There is next to no content in it regarding how to actually use CSS to accomplish what the title implies (replacing tables with CSS).

    The entire article could be replaced with one sentance, "It's possible to use CSS instead of tables, but we're not going to show you how unless you buy our book."
    Thank God I'm not too early!

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    The article was written 2 years before the book came out...
    Who walks the stairs without a care
    It shoots so high in the sky.
    Bounce up and down just like a clown.
    Everyone knows its Slinky.

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    Gah, $40?

    But it IS 500 pages... *sigh*. I need a job.

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    Well written and clear article!

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    Really convincing and clear!

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    This article was written 2 years ago by Julian Carroll and it was the initial inspiration for our CSS book....

    http://www.sitepoint.com/article/379

    This collection of articles was taken from the actual CSS book that we released a couple of months ago and this is just a sample of the book...

    http://www.sitepoint.com/article/1172

    You should read all the articles in the sample before you comment. The first chapters are merely an introduction. You can also download this sample in PDF from:

    http://www.sitepoint.com/books/css1/
    Mark Harbottle - Co-Founder
    sitepoint.com - Master The Web!

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    sorry to say but your answer to the problem with footers collapsing to above a column is a cop-out. Why dont you just admit that in such cases you need tables? For example if you use javascript collapsible content, for example, the whole CSS **** goes out the window. There is no answer that I have found yet that will fix this beside some really hard work-around hack. Sorry if this gets you upset, but, tables are the way to go in this case, unless you can provides a better answer than the one you have here. Email me if you do have another answer.

    Thanks,

    Peter

    Peter@websrepublic.com


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