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    Originally posted by mjames86
    How is Dell better than Gateway?
    I've had great experiences with this (my first) Dell computer. The ordering process was great and fast, it came with lots of little things that I didn't expect (blank CD RWs, software, etc), and the computer hasn't given me a single problem yet. I'd give Dell a 11/10.

    I haven't purchased a Gateway myself, but I did open and set up 5 Gateway computers at work and 3 other Gateways at a friend's business. Gateway seems to focus on the newbie market more compared to Dell IMO.

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    Originally posted by abahta
    Originally posted by mjames86
    How is Dell better than Gateway?
    I've had great experiences with this (my first) Dell computer. The ordering process was great and fast, it came with lots of little things that I didn't expect (blank CD RWs, software, etc), and the computer hasn't given me a single problem yet. I'd give Dell a 11/10.

    I haven't purchased a Gateway myself, but I did open and set up 5 Gateway computers at work and 3 other Gateways at a friend's business. Gateway seems to focus on the newbie market more compared to Dell IMO.
    It may focus more on a newbie market, but that doesn't make it a worse computer. Dell is certaintly an excellent computer, but speaking from experience, Gateway has caused me no problems and the support as been solid.

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    Sorry but you just can't beet building a PC yourself - Much more bang for your or $ or whatever, you get 24hr support from the system builders, don't have to worry about voiding your waranty.
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    Originally posted by mjames86
    It may focus more on a newbie market, but that doesn't make it a worse computer. Dell is certaintly an excellent computer, but speaking from experience, Gateway has caused me no problems and the support as been solid.
    As I said I haven't purchased a Gateway myself, but from my personal experience, Dell tends to focus on power-hungry users more than Gateway.

    Nothing wrong with Gateway, but Gateway isn't for me...

    And I do agree that you can't beat building your own system. I would have done the same if I had the time to do so and if my parents would have let me

    However, many of the parts that I chose on my Dell weren't available to consumers (at least not at the time I bought them) such as my 64MB GeForce 2. Other parts (like Rambus DRAM and fast P-III's) are hard to come around.

    I don't regret buying my Dell one bit

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    Originally posted by abahta
    As I said I haven't purchased a Gateway myself, but from my personal experience, Dell tends to focus on power-hungry users more than Gateway.
    [/B]
    I somewhat disagree.

    Actually, its not just Dell, it's most computer manufacturers, they seem to give you these almost 1 gig processors and 64meg ram.

    Thats not exactly a lot of power. You need at least 128meg ram.
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    I agree, 1GHz procs don't mean much unless you have sufficent RAM. I chose a not-so-high processor but loads of RAM (800MHz/256MB RDRAM) and am very pleased

    The amount of RAM and proc speeds don't matter really, what really matters is if they skimp on the little things.

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    Dell and Gateway are obsolete compared to a computer you learn about and build yourself..

    Thats the way my computer is.

    Its stable, it runs for weeks without shutting down..
    Overclocked celeron 466(525) and 128 megs of ram..

    Its a beast
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    If you get 64 more megs of RAM there will be a 50%-100% improvment in speed with 98 or above.

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    Too bad and late for me! I didn't know that Dell PCs are that good!
    My HP is in need of a breeze in OS now! Trying to install Linux soon
    I have a year and a half old Packard Bell at home that I've never had a problem with either. It's getting time for more memory (I have 32MB) and a faster Processor (300MHz) but otherwise it's great.

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    Originally posted by Owen
    If you get 64 more megs of RAM there will be a 50%-100% improvment in speed with 98 or above.
    So if I go buy a 64MB stick of RAM My PC should work that much faster?

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    Originally posted by Brian Asselin
    Originally posted by Owen
    If you get 64 more megs of RAM there will be a 50%-100% improvment in speed with 98 or above.
    So if I go buy a 64MB stick of RAM My PC should work that much faster?
    A lot faster. I would go to 128 or 256 total.
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    Originally posted by Grandmaster
    Dell and Gateway are obsolete compared to a computer you learn about and build yourself..

    Thats the way my computer is.

    Its stable, it runs for weeks without shutting down..
    Overclocked celeron 466(525) and 128 megs of ram..

    Its a beast
    One of the things I like about Dell is that if I go research all of the best components that are available, I find that Dell offers all of them.

    I was a computer technician for years, and if I never have to build another PC, it will be too soon.
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    Originally posted by RussellG
    Originally posted by abahta
    As I said I haven't purchased a Gateway myself, but from my personal experience, Dell tends to focus on power-hungry users more than Gateway.
    I somewhat disagree.

    Actually, its not just Dell, it's most computer manufacturers, they seem to give you these almost 1 gig processors and 64meg ram.

    Thats not exactly a lot of power. You need at least 128meg ram. [/B]
    This is just marketing guys. They do it this way because they can quote 1 Gig + 64K cheaper than 1 Gig + 256K. They don't expect anyone to buy it with only 64K. It is the same reason car manufacturers quote the price of a base model instead of a fully loaded one.
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    If you will use the <url></url> vB Codes in your signature (use [] brackets instead of <> ), then those URLs will become links. For example,
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    If you got the time and the knowledge, you'll better build your own system, much cheaper and it's fun!

    I recently build a new system (Duron 600) and I'm very pleased with it. If I had bought the same system but then as a Dell or Gateway (or Comqrap ) it would have cost me a lot more.

    Besides, can you buy a Dell, Gateway etc. PC without preinstalled Windows/Linux? I've never seen it... And then I'm not even talking about the (sometimes useless) software that you get with it (your fourth copy of Win98 for example):

    "Ghee... Another copy of Encarta World Atlas..."

    Being a hardware junkie, I must build the system myself to trust it
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    Elledan have you OC'd your Duron yet? Just wondering how high the 600 goes, I have a friend with a 700 that goes to 1Ghz stable. I am thinking of giving my PC an upgrade, at the moment it is Dual Celeron 550 (When the weather is right).

    Also, can anyone recommend a good cheap graphics card? I have a TNT2 Ultra 32MB which was top of the line when I bought it but now it's looking a bit old. Anyone out there got a GF2 MX ? If so what are they like performance wise? - I've read all the reviews etc. on firingsquad etc. so I just want people's real experiences with them.

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    The Geforce 2 MX has a slightly better performance than the Geforce 1. It's quite good for the low price you pay for it, so I'd buy it.

    Nope, I haven't overclocked my Duron yet, I'll first double the memory (128 MB now)
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    GeForce seems to release a new card every couple of weeks, none offering a lot more than its previous. I am doing quite well with my 64MB DDR GeForce 2 GTS

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    I have a Celeron 466 with 128MB RAM. I would like to learn about overclocking, can u help me, or recommend some websites with detailed info

    Originally posted by Grandmaster
    Its stable, it runs for weeks without shutting down..
    Overclocked celeron 466(525) and 128 megs of ram..
    Its a beast
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