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    Freelance Web Designer KeithMcL's Avatar
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    I was sifting through my personal filing cabinet (AOL) and came across a registration mail to this forum. It's a nicely layed out forum. It uses CFM.

    Thought some may be interested. It's available to purchase for $199.

    Check it out at http://www.e-zonemedia.com/forum/

    rgds,

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    I think Anandtech.com use that board.

    It's one of the more original boards out there (though mine shall be better).
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    Cold Fusion!!! *shudders*

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    I'll show my ignorance. What's wrong with Cold Fusion?
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    Well if Fuse-Talk is any representation, It is slow. At least one Anandtech the forums are...

    Can't judge a programming language by one product though.
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    For what's its worth, I saw someone on the vBulletin community forum asking how to import Fuse-Talk.
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    I think that php\mysql is much better to go with than cold fusion. What do you guys think, whats better?
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    Your Lord and Master, Foamy gold trophy Hierophant's Avatar
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    Originally posted by necrominator
    I think that php\mysql is much better to go with than cold fusion. What do you guys think, whats better?
    As a full featured DBMS, MySQL is severely lacking in many places. Sure its fast but it only has about 1/10th the functionality as the big boys. Still doesn't even have basic Transaction support fully implemented. This makes the system incapable of handling the OnLine Transaction Processing (OLTP) needed for Customer Relations Management, E-Commerce and Online service and support. You get a decent system for the amount that you pay for though.

    A Cold Fusion system will be able to run circles around any written for MySQL because Cold Fusion can support any Database including MySQL.

    PHP is fast but only version 4 and the Zend Optimizer, otherwise it really has no advantages over any other coding system. You just choose what you like best.
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    Originally posted by W. Luke
    Well if Fuse-Talk is any representation, It is slow. At least one Anandtech the forums are...

    Can't judge a programming language by one product though.
    Really? I was at the anandtech forums the other day and I said to myself, "Wow this is really fast compared to sitepoint forums."

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    Your Lord and Master, Foamy gold trophy Hierophant's Avatar
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    Originally posted by jumpthru
    Originally posted by W. Luke
    Well if Fuse-Talk is any representation, It is slow. At least one Anandtech the forums are...

    Can't judge a programming language by one product though.
    Really? I was at the anandtech forums the other day and I said to myself, "Wow this is really fast compared to sitepoint forums."
    I was trying to load the forums on Friday, peak time. T-1 connection and they took over a minute before anything rendered on the screen. That is slow. With SitePoint on the same connection its almost as if the forums are on the screen before I finish typing in the address.
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    Right now at http://forums.anandtech.com there are 311 users logged in and activly browsing and 35,000 registered users. The page loaded about 2 seconds faster than Sitepoint's forums with Sitepoint only having 20 registered users on (plus 17 anonymous users which aren't counted at anandtech, but we can assume the same ratio... though I think it is higer there.) Therefore about 580 total users (~260 anon) are on Anand compaged to 37 here or about 15 times more traffic at anandtech than at sitepoint. Both forums are run on single computers (I believe). I know their's is dual processor, but I don't know much beyond that.

    Also look at http://www.fatwallet.com/forums -- another huge site that uses the same software.

    I don't know the CPU usage of this forums but multiply it by at least 15 (assuming they are equally efficient) and you got anandtech. Also don't forget about the roughly 90,000 threads they have archived...

    Owen

    [Edited by Owen on 10-29-2000 at 11:21 PM]

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    Your Lord and Master, Foamy gold trophy Hierophant's Avatar
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    I can only go by my own personal experiances. I know about the usage difference and accounted for that while waiting for the forums to load.

    This topic was originally not about forum load times though but Cold Fusion. Again going by my personal experiences I have found Cold Fusion sites to run a little slower than others but can't put quantitative numbers on it. Just now Anandtech's forums loaded in about 15 seconds for me. A lot of improvement over the other day.

    Threads take no CPU resources unless they are accessed and then only as much as any other thread. A forum could have 10 threads or 10 million and still use the same resources if the same number of members were logged in. If you look my original comment was about the speed of the forum software used not on the Site itself. I find Anandtech loading at acceptable speeds.
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    Have you ever noticed that we always go off on a tangent? My point was simply that given the same resources anand (and I'm talking about the forums) should be slower. Personally, I spend about 2/3 of my forum time at a cold fusion board system and I find it to be perfectly usable. No slower or faster than anything else. Right now over the college network it takes less than one second to load. Sitepoint about 4 seconds. I think the 15 seconds has more to do with your network connection than anything else.

    Threads don't take cycles but they do take time. If you have 10 gigs of data, you need to swap it in and out of memory which takes time (plus disk accesses, etc).

    Owen

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    The AnandTech Forums are actually hosted on two very high-end servers. The SitePoint Forums are on the same server as our main sites.
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    When I first visited Anandtech (when SP was on UBB), I also thought it was superior to UBB and still think it is to vB as well ... just IMHO, it is a lot easier for users..

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    Hi there! Owen's Avatar
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    Aaah. Yes. I found this. http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1305&p=1

    Owen

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    Originally posted by jamesglewisf
    I'll show my ignorance. What's wrong with Cold Fusion?

    NT specific!

    I believe Cold Fusion will run on other platforms, but not well.

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    Whats Anandtech stand for?

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    Anand Tech, originally Anand's Hardware Tech Page
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    Hi there! Owen's Avatar
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    Off topic but comparison of the speed of PHP, ColdFusion, etc. PHP wins by a decent margin.

    http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stor...646052,00.html

    Owen

    [Edited by Owen on 11-01-2000 at 01:07 PM]

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    Originally posted by Owen
    Off topic but comparison of the speed of PHP, ColdFusion, etc. PHP wins by a decent margin.

    http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/0,12249,2646052,00.html

    Owen
    Those tests weren't properly controlled. All the scripting languages need to be tested under the same Operating System and same Webserver to produce accurate results. Anything else will introduce variables that can skew the results. Never did like Ziff Davis' tests because they always skew them to present their point of view. I used to think they had the best testing suites available until I realized that their advertisers always got better scores and product placement in the magazine than non-advertisers. I went from 6 subscriptions a year to none and rarely visit their websites. Independent Magazine and Magazines from Imagine are much better in my opinion.

    Sorry for totally throwing this off-topic now.
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    Hmm, you should fix that link (and thats a bug in vBulletin that should be fixed).

    And why dont you like zdnet? I always thought they were fair and stuff.

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    I do agree. The awards they give seem to be too abituary.

    jumpthru > I think it's actually a "feature." A comma is often placed after a URL if the writer wants to change topic or whatever. Who knows why ZDNET even needs those commas, though.

    BTW, I probably should have put this in its own thread...

    Owen

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    Originally posted by RussellG
    I think Anandtech.com use that board.

    It's one of the more original boards out there (though mine shall be better).
    You too? We're all making bulletin boards, I guess.

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    Originally posted by Owen
    I do agree. The awards they give seem to be too abituary.

    jumpthru > I think it's actually a "feature." A comma is often placed after a URL if the writer wants to change topic or whatever. Who knows why ZDNET even needs those commas, though.

    BTW, I probably should have put this in its own thread...

    Owen
    Oh yea yoru right. They should do that for a period too.

    lol, before i said fix it, now i say add it in again.


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