Flowchart/sitemap software

[S7even]

I need a good and easy to learn program to create flowcharts and sitemaps. I am currently looking at MS Visio and SmartDraw:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/visio/default.asp
http://www.smartdraw.com/products/smartdraw/index.htm

Any other alternatives? Which is the best one for web developers?

[ozgression]

I am also looking for a sitemap generator...

[Sagewing]

I like Visio better than smartdraw, though smartdraw is pretty decent.

Sitemaps, though, are for suckers, imho . The very nature of html is such that only a very small, generically organized site could even be made into a traditional 'upside down' pyramid chart.

Most sites would look like a drunken spider's web if a real sitemap were made. They are handy for showing to unsavvy clients as a pretty picture, but if you want a real planning tool you should think about doing WIREFRAMES instead.

Unless I am misunderstanding your needs, in which case Visio is awesome!

[TheOriginalH]

Aah, but flowcharts for processes (especially in complex db backed sites) are worth their weight in gold....

[anode]

Sitemaps, though, are for suckers, imho . The very nature of html is such that only a very small, generically organized site could even be made into a traditional 'upside down' pyramid chart.

Most sites would look like a drunken spider's web if a real sitemap were made. They are handy for showing to unsavvy clients as a pretty picture, but if you want a real planning tool you should think about doing WIREFRAMES instead.

You should check into Jesse James Garrett's VisualVocabulary; it may change your mind about that.

Speaking of, OmniGraffle ships with a visivocab palette, but I'm assuming the original poster is on a PC.

[Sagewing]

For functional diagraming, UML is the way