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    Hi,

    If any of you get a chance could you please review my art webpage? Go easy on me though, I am not a professional at all. I taught myself through trial and error (and I'm still learning of course). Target audience is those interested in art and teenagers. Thanks alot!

    http://members.aol.com/paulasketchcity/index.html

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    hi

    98/2 verge s3 sony 17se 1024x768

    Thanks for the opportunity to review your site.

    Use the transparency feature for your header, buttons and banners and let the background show through.

    Move the buttons to just below the header and line them horizontally,

    Find a text color for the buttons that does not get lost in the text bgcolor.

    I cannot read the following against the bg, suggest something lighter.

    On this site you will be able to see a gallery of my work, and a price list of how much I sell my art prints for. Thanks for visiting!! Please sign my Guestbook too! There is a link to it below
    In the paragraph above, provide gallery, price list, and Guestbook with hyperlinks, and add some information about your bio page.

    The large blank area would be a problem but that is gone if the buttons are moved.

    An alternative would be to leave the buttons, use a table and put the buttons in one td and text to the right of it in a second.

    Maybe a button to the guestbook, and another for the eMail.

    The site is consistent in design and very easy to navigate.






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    hi folks

    take a look at this site. she is sharing her site with us and asking for our opinion.

    help her out.

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    Thanks so much Ed.

    Your suggestions helped me so much. I redid the first page as well as the pricing page. And I am still working on more. Thanks again!

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    Hi Paula

    First don't get discouraged it takes a lot of work. I know because I set up my wifes page at http://www.artbyjudy.com

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    1. Get rid of the links just under your page name or the other buttons you don't need 2 sets of links into your site. My preference would be to keep the buttons as the other links didn't even show as buttons on my Netscape browser.

    2. The buttons (the ones down the left which I said to keep) are linked incorrectly. Art Gallery and About Me are linked to index.html and should be gallery.html and me.html respectively

    3. The thumbnails (small pictures in your gallery) should be .jpg files, they seem to be html and I don't even know why they work but do. You should use a program to make them smaller in size (not image size , they are a good size in that respect but in kb). Presently they are abou 30 kb and only need to be about 4 kb each. Then the page will load quicker.

    4. Consider putting the thumbnails in a table so you get say 3 accross then more are visible and people don't have to scroll. If you need help with setting up a table just ask. If you like them the way they are no problem its your site and artistic privilege is what it is all about.

    5. When I click on the thumbnail picture and go to the larger version my preference would be to see the picture all on the screen without having to scroll down. You should also have a return link button. Lots of people who use computers are not that familiar and don't even know how to use a mouse back button.

    I am presently in the planning stages of a make over of our home page and am going to make things a lot simpler. When I did it over a year ago I got carried away with creating fancy links and top of the page gifs and placed to many thumbnails on a page in the galleries. The next time I plan to keep the thumbnail pictures to a maximum of 6 per page and make them slightly bigger in physical size. I will use text only probably for the linking buttons and get rid all the gifs as the key is for the pages to load as quickly as possible.

    Need any help just ask. Great picture of you and nice work.

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    Hey Paula its looking better all the time you must be working hard at it.

    Gallery thumbs page still takes a long time to load.

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    I was thinking of the table on the main page. (Art Gallery, About me, Price List, Links). How about the code example I have below:

    <TABLE BORDER=0 CELLPADDING="2">
    <TR>
    <TD ALIGN=center VALIGN=top>
    <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/paulasketchcity/gallery.html"><IMG ALIGN="Bottom"
    SRC="index_pict9.jpeg" ALT="[Image]" WIDTH="100" HEIGHT="32"></A>
    </TD>
    <TD ALIGN=center VALIGN=top>
    <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/paulasketchcity/me.html"><IMG ALIGN="Bottom"
    SRC="index_pict10.jpeg" ALT="[Image]" WIDTH="100" HEIGHT="32"></A>
    </TD>
    <TD ALIGN=center VALIGN=top>
    <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/paulasketchcity/pricing.html"><IMG ALIGN="Bottom"
    SRC="index_pict11.jpeg" ALT="[Image]" WIDTH="100" HEIGHT="32"></A>
    </TD>
    <TD ALIGN=center VALIGN=top>
    <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/paulasketchcity/links.html"><IMG ALIGN="Bottom"
    SRC="index_pict13.jpeg" ALT="[Image]" WIDTH="100" HEIGHT="32"></A>
    </TD>
    </TR>
    </TABLE>

    And I'd also try the same border="0" on the table in the art gallery with a <td valign=top align=center> as well. After that I'd probably insert a break (<br>) between the image tag and the name of the artist.

    Will spice up the page a lot if you ask me And what do you know you sort of did by posting to this forum

    /Anders

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    Hi Paula

    I like your main sketch logo and your colors - purple and black go well together, especially for art sites. Good choice.

    Its overall a nice personal art site. Good idea using thumbnails for the main pictures. You're a good artist so its nice to display your work so that it can be downloaded quickly. Showcase it!

    And I signed your guestbook



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    Ooops,
    Forogt to remove the ALIGN="Bottom" from the <IMG> tag. Please do so and the example will look much better. You might also want to consider replacing the ALT="[Image]" with something descriptive. ALT="Art Gallery" for example.

    /Anders

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    Thanks everyone for all your help. My webpage looks so good now!

    andwick- I put the your tag on my page. It looks really good! Thanks so much.

    Sparkie- Thanks for signing my guestbook and for all your nice complements!

    gthorley and edchuck- Thanks again for all your help!

    I really appreciate it.

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    hi

    this thread will be open for a while. others will be reviewing.

    when ever you get a chance drop in and do a review. you are a member, and as you work with the page and discover what works for your client base, your information will be very useful to others beginning the process of marketing on the web.

    thanks for all your work.


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    I haven't read the other reviews so i apologize if I mention something already said. First thing is I think your headers need to be transparent if your going to use background images. On the art gallery page your thumnails aren't thumbnails in fact. Resize the pictures and this page will be much faster loading, it takes forever now on a 56k modem. Also on the art gallery page the Jennifer Aniston text is different from the rest and Sisqo's is linked but none of the other are. On the pricing page at 1024 x 768 resolution the image you used for a horizontal rule is on the same ling as text because you used a lot of non-breaking spaces (&nbsp. On the front page and price list page you use two different images for horizontal rules, personally I think just one kind is enough. From the pictures I saw you are obviously talented and I may have to buy the Alstott picture since he went to college in my home town. Hope this helps

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    Remove the green border around your buttons, by placing a BORDER=0 in the IMG tags.

    On the thumbnail page, you included images at their actual size, resized to fit in the tables. This is not the way... Make two versions of each image. The original version would be in the HTML file called by the click on a resized version of the image (to avoid being lost in numerous files in the same folder, i'd advise you to create a /thumb folder so you'd always see where are the little images and therefore distinct them easily).
    Which software did you use for the images ? They have no file extensions. Luckily, it works. But it would be better to save them as .jpg , that way they get smaller in Kb, and your visitors wouldn't have to wait too long while the page is loading.
    With that kind of image files, the weight of each would be around 3kb for the thumbnail images and maximum 35kb for the actual images.

    Centered text is a bit ugly. You can create a 630px wide table (or set the width to 70%), insert your text in it, and then center the table itself. That way the visiter wouldn't have to scroll his/her eyes from the left to the right of the screen. (or maybe i'm the only one who thinks this is tiring.)

    An interesting thing, now that i think of it, would be keeping your purple background (although i hate that kind of backgrounds), make a very brighter version of it, set that new version as the background of the TABLEs, and set the text color to black. Or vice-versa, darker version, and still white text.
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    hi everybody,

    Be sure to read the reviews here. There are some really good tips.

    Particular note for me was Shin Ma's comments about eliminating border problems in gif and jpg displays.

    Check them out. Review the object site and comment.

    Have a great day!




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    You are off to a good start!

    Here are some suggestions for you,

    On the Home Page the image for e-mail does not work.

    Make the blue horizontal bar more narrow.

    Instead of having the text -- “Click on the thumbnail images to enlarge the picture. To return to the Art Gallery, hit the BACK arrow on each page” you should have navigation buttons that return the user to the Home Page.

    Try to have an e-mail button on each page.

    Make navigation the same format on each page.

    Nice start!

    -- David


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