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    Hey Gang,

    I'd just like to get some opinions here. Or maybe I'm just venting a little bit.

    This will be a long post, but perhaps it will make for some lively discussion.

    I regularly review submission and optimization services to help me run my own site. As a consequence, I tried out the ineedhits.com service so many of you have probably seen.

    Thank gosh I had the forethought to use a dummy e-mail account. I've been getting a "newsletter" from them it seems like every other day since then. Attempts to cancel the subscription are futile.

    With that said - Here is their most recent "newsletter." (sorry for the length) And yes I did agree to sign up for it when I submitted. But gosh knows I did not agree to this and again, there is no way to cancel.

    What's your opinion? Is this spam? If someone agrees to give you their e-mail address does that give the receiving party an unlimited welcome mat to your e-mail account? Or is this just good internet marketing?

    I call it spam.

    J.K. Bowman
    http://spider-food.net'

    P.S. - Before I get into any trouble around here - I am in no way affiliated or endorse anything at ineedhits.com. In fact, I recommend against using them. Just thought I would say that before I posted this here.


    To all ineedhits.com members,
    [ http://www.ineedhits.com ]



    ==============================
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    ====================================================
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    ====================================================

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    ================================================
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    ================================================

    Many of our users (maybe you included)
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    ==============================
    Latest Events at ineedhits.com
    ==============================

    Over the last few months ineedhits.com has...

    [Begin List From Early August 2000]

    - Direct Hit and ineedhits.com sign for another 6 months!
    - Google added to Submit Free (now 25 search engines).
    - Reached 40,000 members.
    - WebsMostLinked.com added to Submit Free (now 26 search
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    - WebsMostLinked.com ranks ineedhits.com in the top 1% of the
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    - Added "Past Customer Comments" section to newsletter.
    - Reached 41,000 members.
    - Submit Free bug fixed.
    - FAQ Page Added to ineedhits.com website.
    - About Us page updated.
    - Lycos and ineedhits.com form a Strategic Partnership.
    - Lycos added to all submission services.
    - Reached 48,000 members.
    - ineedhits.com secures a Lease for new office space (3 times
    larger that than the current offices!)
    - Newsletter Sponsorship increased to $100 per ad.
    - Traffic Packages now an amazing 69% off!
    - Lycos and ineedhits.com partnership goes live!
    - PCDataOnline reports ineedhits.com in the top 1% of the web!
    - ineedhits.com has employed a new Chief IT Advisor (Grey Hair)
    - Sale Extended!
    - FAST is now the biggest!
    - ineedhits.com has employed a new Chief Programmer (Grey Hair)
    - ineedhits.com expanding rapidly: new offices are nearly full!
    - Alexa ranking come out: ineedhits.com is the most popular
    submission specialists!!!
    - Reached 76,000 members.

    [End List For Events Up Until Today]

    Note: There are many more improvements/changes to come!




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    Repeat Article: Alexa Statistics
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    *Repeat - Website Promotion Tips #142


    Well done and thank you to all members!

    The latest Alexa Statistics our out and you
    guessed it... the results are amazing!

    Since the 4th of April 2000, ineedhits.com has
    jumped from 4th position (8% market share) in the
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    What's more is that all our major competitor's
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    What's the secret? Why are more and more people
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    ======================
    Past Customer Comments
    ======================

    Note: Below we have pasted a couple of our past
    customer comments. To see more simply visit our
    homepage and click on any of our paid service
    links (ie: Submit Pro, Submit Ongoing, Traffic
    Packages...) http://www.ineedhits.com

    -------

    Dear IneedHits Staff,

    http://www.DavesLotto.com listings and promotions
    are going great! After purchasing the "Platinum
    Package", We are happy to report that keyword
    search "buy lottery tickets" Yahoo has DavesLotto
    ranked at #5 of about 15,400 related, Google has
    us at #4 of about 40,700 related, and Alta Vista
    has us at #2 of 4,378,815 lottery ticket related
    webpages.

    Job Well Done. Thank You
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    -------

    I can't thank you enough for helping me promote
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    Jim Mc Namara
    Future Collectibles
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    -------

    My clients and I think you run a fine outfit.
    I've been pleased with the results we've had
    with search engine placement after registering
    with ineedhits.com, and we look forward to more
    of the same in the future.

    And the price... well, who could beat that!?

    Thanks again, and best wishes from New York/New
    Jersey, USA.

    Geoff Notkin

    -------

    Dear ineedhits.com

    I must say how impressed I was at the number of
    search engines you'd had my site submitted to
    and all the work done on my behalf.

    Great Service, thanks!
    Ben Martin

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    Dear ineedhits.com

    Thanks for the tips. This is EXACTLY what I was
    looking for and your assistance is well worth
    the price you charge. I hope you and your
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    like decent, honest folks and we can't have too
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    Thanks again for your help,
    Ken Wade

    -------

    Dear ineedhits,

    I just wanted to thank you for helping me
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    I am amazed at how fast you got my site on so
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    Thank you!
    A.C. Stengele
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    I've never been to "ineedhits.com" and I'm too busy to visit now but..

    If you get the newsletter because you signed up through them, perhaps it will stop if you somehow cancel your membership to the entire service?

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    Hey Dan,

    I've tried to cancel with no success. And to tell ya the truth that in and of itself is not really bothering me because when I sign up for anything I don't trust 100% of the way I use an alternate e-mail address.

    I guess my question had more to do with ethics than anything else. In my humble opinion, the newsletter above is nothing more than spam disguised as a "newsletter."

    I just thought the topic might stimulate some lively conversation.

    Most of the time we are trying to get our newsletters off to a great start. But at what point do we cross the line between writing a newsletter and just delivering advertisements disguised as them?
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    Hi,

    I definately think that is spam and they are practicing very bad site habits.

    If I was you I would try to contact the webmaster and ask them if they can unsubscribe you.

    I really hate it when newsletters don't give you an option to opt out of their list.

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    Hee hee..

    I did write the webmaster. The text read:

    "If you are going to send out advertisements disguised as a newsletter - the least you could do is actually make it look like a newsletter or put something in there worth reading. Please remove me from this list."

    Of course - nothing happened. LOL

    But to prove my point just look at this snippet from the 'lead text' of the newsletter they sent to me today.

    "....you can now
    pay for your search engine position. Goto.com
    was the first search...blah blah blah..."

    ROFL - Well, I am glad that ineedhits.com got this breaking news to me today. I guess I'd better get over there to GoTo.com right away and buy some keywords before everyone else finds out about this option. LOL

    ha ha ha..
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    This is an Egroups list. Simply go to Egroups.com and use the email address and password you used to sign up to log in. Then click on "My Groups". Each group gives you a series of options including that of unsubscribing.
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    Gosh, you included the whole long long message!!!
    I kept on scrolling, scrolling, and scrolling, finally see some other posts!



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    Well, I got their spam again today.

    So, as suggested I booked over to e-groups to unsubscribe.

    Here is the message from e-groups. As you see, unsubscribing from this @#$^%#% is not possible. Either that or these slackers have made it so difficult that most people will jsut give up.

    Oh! And guess what. They are still having the same sale! WhoooooHooooo...

    The email address used to send your message is not subscribed to this
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    If you would like to subscribe to this group:
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    After you follow these steps, you will be able to send messages
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    IMHO many 'newsletters' are disguised 'spam'; and it's a particular problem amongst 'ezines' for webmasters. That's why I only subscribe to one - Allan Gardyne's AssociatePrograms.com newsletter. And I'm going to unsubscribe to that too since he keeps rambling on about MakeMySiteSell.com or whatever it is in EVERY issue.

    My own ezine takes an extremely long time to research and write. If you look at http://www.1lit.com you will see that it is packed full of original (not recycled/copied) articles, reviews etc. It takes so much time to compile that I only have enough time to send out 10 issues a year.

    I think webmasters should put more effort into creating original content for their ezines. Otherwise, like the 'newsletter' above from INeedHits.com they are little more than sales-letters and many people will unsubscribe immediately.

    What do others think?

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    HI, I have to agree that a lot of ezines these days are full of ads. I personally write one to over 32,000 people and it only has one ad in it. I did this for a reason, I wanted my content to be read and not deleted

    I knw I could probably make more with my ezine and place more ads, but it was really important to me to have a really good ezine

    That might be one reason it has grown to that many in only a few months? As well as my short and to the point blurbs in it

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    I don't know if it's spam - but it's close. 9 out of every 10 URLs in there began in "http://www.ineed..." - just sad.

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    It only costs $25 to file a lawsuit at the courthouse (if you are in the USA)

    Since they are breaking the law by not unsubscribing you when requested, why not sue them for a couple of hundred dollars?

    It would not be worth their time to get representation to travel to defend them. If they don't show, you win!

    That'll teach them more than any insulting e-mail ever could.


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    Je*us Chri*t! I couldn't believe the length of that 'newsletter' (even allowing for the formatting on this page). It's spam, all right. Try getting an anti-spam email client like Bounce Spam Mail at http://www.er.uqam.ca/merlin/fg591543/bsm/, or just one that will delete emails on the server before you download them, based up the senders' email address or other content.


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    Originally posted by heavy
    It only costs $25 to file a lawsuit at the courthouse (if you are in the USA)

    Since they are breaking the law by not unsubscribing you when requested, why not sue them for a couple of hundred dollars?

    It would not be worth their time to get representation to travel to defend them. If they don't show, you win!

    That'll teach them more than any insulting e-mail ever could.

    I'm real late on this, but hey...that is a darn good idea! Free money basically. I haven't been able to get off their list either.

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    Actually, I did that Sketch... not against them, but against two porn sites that were sending me email for some unforeseen reason... They just kept sending them, I'd unsubscribe and then I'd get thousands more emails all from sites owned by the same companies... So... I just filed a lawsuit for $500, claiming "Harassment" and I won, because they didn't show on one and I got $100 for the other because they settled out of court... smart people they are... That's the best action to take, from what I see... not to mention it can be quite profitable if you win, but I would make sure that you send a dated email that you save to them and wait for responses...


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