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    I have two hotmail.com addresses. One of them I have had for a few years now. The other I got two years ago. Now, I don't want to use them anymore. I try to wait days and days for the account to get closed, but since I get spam in those accounts, I need to login and block senders and delete the e-mails.


    Well, I am getting so fed up with hotmail.com They have lousy customer service, they only allow 250 addresses to be blocked, and they don't have a "delete this account" option yet.

    So, what do I do?
    I logged in a few minutes ago and was confronted with 120(it was actually 122, I think) e-mails on one account (all SPAM) and 104 on the other account (all spam).

    Is there a site where I can write a complaint about them? Like epinions.com?



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    Hotmail is a FREE service. If you are not happy with them pay for such a service. You should be happy there are such services. I have a Hotmail account for 1.5 years, which I don't use anymore, but it gets NO spam. IMHO it's all te USERS fault and blocking addresses is stupid as they sent spam from different addresses all the time

    ie 67668@spam.com, 67768@spam.com, ...

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    My brother has an e-mail account at hotmail.com and everyday he'll check his mail and have AT LEAST 15 SPAM messages relating to porn or loosing weight.

    No, he doesn't sign up for anything online..he only gave his address out to maybe 3 kids.

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    Try some other FREE account. I gave another.com a go and they seem relatively spam free.

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    If you don't want your Hotmail accounts anymore, simply don't login for 60 days. You don't have to log into delete spam. If your not reading it then don't worry about it. Once you get a full mailbox you stop getting new mail. After 60 days your account goes inactive, then after 90 days they delete it.

    p.s. take yourself out of the Hotmail Directory to stop receiving spam. I receive more spam off of my ICQ account than my Hotmail account.
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    I wouldn't know because I stopped using Hotmail years ago. What I fail to understand is WHY do people use free services like Hotmail and Yahoo!? What advantages does it have over Outlook? Price? No, try the free Outlook Express. Accessibility? No, you can check your POP3 accounts from places like Mail2Web.com where all you need is a 'Net connection. In my mind, you are giving these sites free ad revenue - I don't want to be forced to see their ads and offers when I don't have to in a far superior client in Outlook (Express).

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    Originally posted by M. James
    I wouldn't know because I stopped using Hotmail years ago. What I fail to understand is WHY do people use free services like Hotmail and Yahoo!? What advantages does it have over Outlook? Price? No, try the free Outlook Express. Accessibility? No, you can check your POP3 accounts from places like Mail2Web.com where all you need is a 'Net connection. In my mind, you are giving these sites free ad revenue - I don't want to be forced to see their ads and offers when I don't have to in a far superior client in Outlook (Express).
    Why?

    Average family with Internet access is 4-5 people. The only company that offers Family accounts is AOL (you get 5 screennames). So if you are with a local ISP, have DSL or CABLE, the chances are you have one E-Mail account to use with that account. Contrary to popular belief most people don't have hosting accounts that provide 25 free email accounts. These people have to get them from another source i.e. HotMail, Yahoo, NetAddress. I have a Yahoo account. I don't use it but it is for a "Yahoo Family Account", under this my son(8) and daughter(4) both have an account so they can receive digital postcards or play online games. While I could set up accounts that they can use through Outlook or Outlook Express, the Yahoo Interface is easier for them to use and I don't have to worry about setting up filters all the time.

    I also know some people who are in abusive relationships and for one reason or another need an external email that isn't accessible to anyone but them.

    Not to mention the millions who don't have Internet Accounts of their own but access the Net through PC's at school, work, Net Cafes and libraries.
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    You really can't complain if it's free in this world today. Hard to come by free stuff.

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    If you don't want it, don't use it. Who cares if it is still open? Eventrally it'll get full and the emails will bounce -- the same thing as if you closed it. Anyway, it's free so they don't care if you do or don't use it.

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    Yea, just dont use it, and it will get deleted.

    I aggree with whoever said this...I think the cause of spam is the users. At one point, I got 200 spam a day at my jumpthru address. Now I get none. Maybe one a month...plus the freeservers.com emails that i dont want, but cant unsubscribe from, grr.

    anyway, i think it has to do with the users, since i have given out my address to thousands of sites, and like i said i get none. but i used to get 200 a day, and that was when i submitted my site to a bnuch of ffa sites.

    exceptions: i also think that it might not be your fault. for example, i have a aol address and i get so much porn email their now. probably 10 a day, mabye a little less.

    point is, i have never ever used that address on a site...what gives...but their is a explanation. its very simple. its because its aol...

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    when I first signed up with hotmail, I did not yet have an ISP internet e-mail address. I used it to sign up for things like geocities and to sign guestbooks. I realize that signing the guestbooks probably did it. If hotmail would listen to a few people, my accounts would be closed without having to wait 90 days (i think its 90 days now).

    I don't think the e-mail addresses are in the hotmail directory. I am sure that I made sure it wasn't listed.

    I had a problem with ffa links sites and tons of spam mail with another e-mail address. I cancelled that account because eventually it would be deleted. (Long story).

    Its not *totally* the users fault. I've only gotten two spams on my @jediliz.net website address (and it wasn't even an account I had named.) I don't expose my e-mail address as a mailto link for the reason that spammers harvest e-mail addresses.

    I just get frustrated, because these accounts could have been deleted a year ago, but I was still using them a year ago. Then there's the fact that my original yahoo e-mail address got accidentally deleted when I requested a geocities address be deleted.



    <Edited by clueless on 12-06-2000 at 08:33 PM>

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    I've had bad experiences with Hotmail and good ones too... its like any company really. Someone is going to fine good things about a company and of course some are going to fine bad things...

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    Yeah my 1st email address was using Hotmail, but I just don't use it anymore because of the amount of spam. I use mbox.com.au now for all emails, I didn't delete my Hotmail account I just left it as it was and never went back to it.

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    It's really disturbing to me Every time someone has the slighest problem with any service related to Microsoft they start complaining about it, while it's their own fault things go wrong (you add yourself to the user directory, you install too much shareware,...).

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    I signed up to Hotmail & Yahoo because they were the only free e-mail services that i knew allowed organizing content into folders, 2 years ago.
    I was at the university. The university gave each student his/her own e-mail address on their servers but their Eudora was stupidly misconfugured and everytime you checked your e-mails you had to memorize them since they were automatically deleted, what a mess !
    And also, they started disallowing these accounts to be checked from outside the university... for security purposes they said.

    On Hotmail because my login was "assid" (which was a very ancient nickname, no related to the part of the body), i had tons of porn spam targeted to ***[*]@hotmail.com. I signed up for another account, that i don't use anymore.
    On Yahoo because it allows 6 Mb of storage which is very handy. And i don't get much spam there.

    Last month i had 2000 little spam messages from a single sender on my hotmail account. That was funny...

    (edited to precise i had these 2000 messages in a 2 hours span)
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    the doctor said, ' stop doing it then'

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    I have two hotmail accounts. One is to use for signing up on free services, to receive usernames and passwords. Why not use my real email address? Because if an email harvester gets my @hotmail address from these companies, I really could care less, I'll just let it spam its heart out, and the account will be deleted within 90 days.

    The other hotmail address is to check my POP mail while at college. Its just more convenient that way
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    I checked and my hotmail addresses were not listed in the directory. I just remembered one e-mail I got, and the person admitted they found me by using a "spider to grab e-mail addresses". It was someone asking for geography information, like location, etc, for a school project.
    What was funny was that they had harvested the e-mail address from my ex-geocities home page. I wish I had reported that person, because he illegally grabbed my e-mail address.

    Okay, I will not login to my hotmail accounts anymore...sheez...
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    I've one Hotmail account, but I never use it.

    IMO the best free email-service I've ever used is Netscape Webmail ( http://webmail.netscape.com ). It was the first address I had and I'm still using it.

    Not even one single spam email and just one advertisement.
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    Whats the difference between spam and advertisement...

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    Spam in an unsolicited advertisement.
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    Yea...I was thinking that since he was compaining about it, it must of been unsolicited...if he asked for it, he cant really compain about it.

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    Now lets stop complaining and decide on what email service is good.

    Personally I use GMX.NET, allows for both POP and web base mail, making it really versatile. 10MB on space, which is plenty for me, the server isn't up 100% of the time, but at least 99.5%. They have built in spam and bomb proof function built in, so when someone tried to spoof the address to like whatever@hotmail.com (often use is spam), but the server's not from Hotmail, GMX automatically blocks it, although you can disable that if you want.

    Fast as well, and guess what? If you email them your problem, a real life person replies back!

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    I just checked GMX out, and it looks pretty good. Did you have to spend extra for the pop mail? They don't mention it as part of the free basic service.
    Never mind, they ask for a phone #, which should make a red light pop up. NO free e-mail service should need your phone number, that is an invasion of privacy, I think. (Otherwise, it does look okay.)
    Whoops, I didn't see that phone # was optional. I tend to over-react. Sorry there.

    I use webmail also, but I also use webmastersemail.com, which is a bigmailbox service and I like it. I'm thinking about getting a 2nd e-mail address there, and then trying to only have three web=based e-mail addresses.

    I don't give out my private ISP e-mail to everyone, only my parents, my brother and my sister know it. I don't want spam.

    I feel really dumb
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    W. Luke,

    The only company that offers Family accounts is AOL (you get 5 screennames). So if you are with a local ISP, have DSL or CABLE, the chances are you have one E-Mail account to use with that account. Contrary to popular belief most people don't have hosting accounts that provide 25 free email accounts.
    I haven't seen any that offer 25, but many ISPs offer more than 1. My cable modem service with Shaw offers 5. I don't use any of them because I have my own domain name, but they're available. telus.net, the local ADSL service, offers 3 accounts with all of their plans. My first ISP when I signed up 4 years ago in Edmonton, AB, offered me four addresses.

    I would propose that, especially in the urban centres, it's easier than one might think to find an ISP that will offer enough addresses for a family.

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