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    I got these quotes for upgrade on my dedicated server and was wondering which would be the best value for performance for running up to 50 web sites on the server, including

    - a high usage mysql/php forum vBulletin like this forum 500 - 1500 posts/day
    - mysql based polls, guestbook and links
    - cgi and perl stuff like a top sites

    right now just 1 of the sites + the vBulletin total 30,000 pageviews/day

    AMD Duron 600 - 30.00 additional monthly
    AMD Thunderbird 700 - 60.00 additional monthly
    AMD Thunderbird 800 - 90.00 additional monthly
    AMD Thunderbird 900 - 130.00 additional monthly
    AMD Thunderbird 1000 - 200.00 additional monthly
    PIII 650 Mhz - 165.00 additional Monthly
    PIII 750 Mhz - 170.00 additional Monthly

    Memory Upgrade Prices:

    to 512MB - 40.00 additional
    to 768MB - 120.00 additional
    to 1024MB - 180.00 additional

    maybe a

    AMD Thunderbird 800 + 768MB ram = additional US$210/month
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    P3 750 + 512MB = additional US$210/month




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    If I remember correctly, You currently have a 500 Mhz processor and 384 Megs of RAM.

    My personal decision with that many sites is to upgrade RAM first. At least double it (768 MB) and not necessarily worry about processor speed at the moment.

    The next upgrade I would undertake is to get a dedicated machine for MySQL alone. This will reduce most of the load off your webserver. If you do this, you could easily host 200-300 sites on the machine you have now.

    How much traffic do all the sites generate together and how reliant are they on MySQL so far?
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    SitePoint Guru prequel's Avatar
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    i forgot to mention my budget for the next 2 months is for no more than US$200 - 250 additional monthly costs

    my 500 mhz is only a AMD K6/2 500 though with 384MB ram. I wasn't thinking of so soon getting a dedicated mysql server, but does seem like a good idea eventually

    right now only my vB uses mysql actively... i removed the use of phpads, and mythreads php scripts due to my recent problems.

    currently around 10 working sites including the vB generate around 50,000 - 60,000 pageviews/day i have 2 sites on 2 separate virtual servers which i plan to move on to the dedicated server which add another 15,000 - 25,000 pageviews/day to it.

    i plan to use at least php/mysql based polls and guestbooks for all the sites on the server and most of these sites will actually be promoting my vB as well but my main concern until next month is feeding my vB.

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    Like wayne mentioned, upgrade your RAM first, and secondly CPU shouldn't be your next option, 1 or 2 FAST SCSI Drives with atleast 2mb cache would increase your performance drasticaly, we setup alot of larger lans, wans, using a whole lot of technologies and a whole lot of servers and have always found that RAM and fast harddrives will always make a server run more efficant, although I personaly haven't setup a MySQL server I have done a few DB2 and SQL servers.


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    By the way, if you have the money go for an IBM Netfinity I have found them to be very good at acting as a web server and database server, IBM sure do know how to make good quality servers.


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    If you don't mind my asking...

    What are you paying for the server you have now?
    Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by W. Luke
    If you don't mind my asking...

    What are you paying for the server you have now?
    i got my server at the end of May from rackspace.com before their new plans and pricing came in

    i got it because they offered me free setup so i saved US$250

    AMD K6/2 500
    Red Hat / Apache
    384MB Ram
    10GB EIDE
    8 IPS - before the ARIN policy came in lucky
    50GB/month

    US$379/month no setup costs

    i so envy the new plans they have now at rackspace.com - larger hard drives, faster cpus


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