I got rid of Link Exchange banners because of poor traffic, spy cookies, and bad code that wouldn't validate. I got rid of BraveNet Guestbooks and Hit counters because of bad code and cheesy newbie appearance. I do like the concept of WebRings, but their code is holding me back. Thanks for the tip. I will do more research and try it on a test page, then see if the code still passes the WebRing automated checker.