Does anybody have recommendations for an easy to set-up low cost bulletin board where I can use sponsor banners.
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I recently signed up for (but haven't yet implemented) a message board system from everyone.net
They offer free web-based email, bulletin board community (kind of looks like UBB), and a search wizbang. The one you want is their "plug-in community" offering. They offer to split the ad space (only 1 per page) with you 50-50. The benefit is that you don't have to screw around with CGI scripts, and it's well supported and easy to use.
www.gimmeabuck.com <-- Have you given me a buck yet!?
Phorum = PHP board for free, not too sure on the setup though.
Ultraboard 2000 = $40 and easy setup - might cause strain on server if you get heaps of visitors though as it creates the pages dynamically by cgi EVERY time the pages are viewed.
Also - check out this thread
[This message has been edited by crosswire (edited June 08, 2000).]
If you're on an NT machine, you can run either the forum at asp-dev.com or the one at forum.snitz.com.
Both are ASP, datbase-driven(Access) and easy to install. And they are both FREE!!!
The snitz forum is based off the asp-dev version, just with a LOT more features. It also has support for Access 97 and 2000 and SQL server.
I went and checked out the Phorum site and did a lil reading on it. I have a few questions though...As of now, the only language i know is HTML... I know nothing about PHP or MySQL.
On the website it says "It is nearly drop in and go. The amount of work put into it is up to you. All you need to do is specify your
database information, create the tables with the provided SQL, and you are ready."
Does anyone know exactly what that means?
How savvy do i need to be in SQL for that?
I havent worked with databases either so im a bit worried ill be lost.
The FREE sounds very good...but is PHP a good language for a bulletin board? I thought that PERL was suppose to be the best...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jizbot:
The FREE sounds very good...but is PHP a good language for a bulletin board? I thought that PERL was suppose to be the best...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Absolutely! PHP is much faster from what I hear. Perl is a bit older...however due to the massive amount of Perl scripts out there it'll be around at least awhile longer...
In fact, SitePoint is upgrading from UBB to vBulletin (http://www.vbulletin.com) in a bit (no date set I don't believe)...which is written in PHP, and from my experience/what I've heard, it's much faster.
vBulletin is also cheaper than UBB, but is very similar to it in many ways in terms of layout and features.
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Whoah massive topic this is !
I use ubb here :
It is superb, and offers thousands of cool, customisable features. You can also totally modify it to suit your own look by customising the cgi. It is a massive specialist area, just check these sites :
vBulletein is also very very good. It is much faster, and has loads of nice features. If you had to choose, it would definately be vBulletein. But when it comes down to it, it is little more than a slightly customised version of the ubb in php and mysql.
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But when it comes down to it, it is little more than a slightly customised version of the ubb in php and mysql.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
...exactly, it was designed that way. It started as a UBB that the owner ported to php/mysql. It wasn't designed as a marketable product, but the popular demand for it was so great, that they decided to start selling it.
But it has many more features, especially from a admin standpoint. It is a lot more than the UBB, and future versions are going to take that a lot farther. Right now, the only similarities are that it looks the same. That too will be changed in the future, as vBulletin takes on its own life.
Oh right Jimbo. Thanks for that. I know I will definately move my site's forums to vBulletein in the future.
One cool feature is that you can choose to receive an email whenever a post is added to a thread (if you posted at any time during the thread, not neccesarily being the topic starter)
Soon to come,
But why is UBB so much more expensive than vBulletin if vBulletin seems a lot better? Also, as we are in this subject, how big can forums get in MegaBytes? I want to start some forums but I would like to have an idea of how fast my webspace would reach its 50Mb limit and how fast my costs would grow afterwards.
That link you sent has "board power v1.07 beta"
is that what i should be downloading?
this seems like an appropriate place for this question...
i read the readme on the powerboard and it told me to create specific directories on my server and FTP the files to those directories.
It recommended using WSFTP because is allows the user to use "chmod".
im pretty new to FTP and im wondering what CHmod is?
also if i was not using WSftp then how would i accomplish this?
and perhaps someone could tell me what a MOD is? <=(
As for accessing my servers CGI, PERL, etc etc bins...are there any good tutorials out there to explain how these work in detail?
CHMOD is the change mode command of UNIX. It allows you to define the permissions of a file or directory allowing other users to view, modify or execute a file.
If you don't use your FTP program to utilize CHMOD you can telnet into the server and type CHMOD XXXX FILENAME where XXXX equals the permissions.
MOD is short for MODULE. These are extensions to programs that you compile into an existing application to add new features. Since your hosting with a third party company you shouldn't have to worry about it to much. You can ask your host if the mod is installed or if they will install it if not. It all depends on their policy and available resources.
PERL is an interpreted programming language. This makes it scriptlike. You create PERL scripts and use them to process information stored on the server. Commonly PERL is used to process files to create dynamic HTML pages. It does this through a technology called CGI (Common Gateway Interface) that is built into the HTTP specification. Again learn PERL but unless you need to write your own Server Program in a higher level language (i.e. C++) then again I wouldn't worry about the technicalities too much.
The CGI-BIN is a special directory on a UNIX/LINUX webserver that has execute permissions on it. This allows the scripts and programs within it to be executed. Usually these are set up by the hosting company but some hosts will allow you to create multiple CGI-BINs and have them be recognized properly automatically.
If you want to know more about PERL there are many tutorials available just search for PERL at any search engine. If you want to know more about chmod then you will look for basic UNIX tutorials again check any search engine. For more about the CGI-BIN directory I suggest you read the APACHE online documentation found at www.apache.org.
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VBulletin if you have MySQL access and PHP on your server
Ultimate Bulletin Baord if you don't
They have similar features and are both good choices although they're NOT free.
There are some cheaper choices...
I personally wouldn't use UltraBoard because it's sloppily coded, has alot of grammar problems and there's virtaully a war going on between it's users and creators. http://www.SitePoint.com/forums/frown.gif Not good...
Board Power is okay if you can't afford to pay for one. It's pretty good although some people claim it's a UBB copy and don't like it. I think it has pretty good features but still less than UBB or VBulletin.
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I've tried using both the free versions of UBB and vbulletin. I like the vbulletin one better. It's 100x easier to set up and its more customizable than the free version of UBB. My free version of vbulletin looks like a paid version of UBB. It doesn't have all the function since its the free version, but looks wise it looks like the paid version.
I spent days trying to set up UBB and my server just wouldn't do it. I spent minutes setting up vbulletin.
The choice is clear.
If you can't afford something commercial but expect enough traffic that a Perl board doesn't fit, go with Phorum...I've seen it in action and it's quick, efficient and straightforward...however being free, it could be difficult to setup...if you have the expertise to set it up, then I'd say: go for it! If you find you can afford it, vBulletin is probably the best in all-around performance/features.
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