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> <channel><title>Comments on: Should Users Have the Option to Switch Off Responsive Design?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/</link> <description>Learn CSS &#124; HTML5 &#124; JavaScript &#124; Wordpress &#124; Tutorials-Web Development &#124; Reference &#124; Books and More</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 20:55:10 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: ralph.m</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1086250</link> <dc:creator>ralph.m</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 02:23:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1086250</guid> <description><![CDATA[The needs of the mobile web are helping (some of) us to rethink the nature of web design—especially the loads of junk that clutter many desktop sites. I love the lean, clean look of the better mobile layouts, and have found myself wishing the desktop site looked like that too. (It suits me fine if the site is a narrow column even on a giant 27&quot; screen. I don&#039;t want to view a site like I&#039;m watching a tennis match from the sidelines.)
The latest incarnation of A List Apart is a nice example of what I prefer to see. Essentially a one column site that&#039;s easy to read and looks bsically the same on mobile and desktop. I&#039;m hoping that&#039;s the future of the web.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The needs of the mobile web are helping (some of) us to rethink the nature of web design—especially the loads of junk that clutter many desktop sites. I love the lean, clean look of the better mobile layouts, and have found myself wishing the desktop site looked like that too. (It suits me fine if the site is a narrow column even on a giant 27&#8243; screen. I don&#8217;t want to view a site like I&#8217;m watching a tennis match from the sidelines.)</p><p>The latest incarnation of A List Apart is a nice example of what I prefer to see. Essentially a one column site that&#8217;s easy to read and looks bsically the same on mobile and desktop. I&#8217;m hoping that&#8217;s the future of the web.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Sexton</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085798</link> <dc:creator>John Sexton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 21:31:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085798</guid> <description><![CDATA[Yes, I agree keep it simple, UX/UI is important, its about giving people a choice and great experience. Not about taking anything away, or giving a lesser service based on device.
RWD is still a relative new concept and has been badly implimented in many cases. It will never be possible to please everyone but by giving people a choice and seeing and lerning from their choices we build better site experiences.
I am a fan of flooid design, it gives flexibility not available in fixed pixel designs. I don&#039;t agree with restricting content based on user device but instead progressive enhancements based on device support.
Screen readers read content in a linier fassion regardless of device, so weather you have 1 or 5 layout columns, I still get the content the same way, on a desktop, mobile and tablet.
Its an interesting discussion with no right or wrong answer but plenty of food for thought.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree keep it simple, UX/UI is important, its about giving people a choice and great experience. Not about taking anything away, or giving a lesser service based on device.<br
/> RWD is still a relative new concept and has been badly implimented in many cases. It will never be possible to please everyone but by giving people a choice and seeing and lerning from their choices we build better site experiences.</p><p>I am a fan of flooid design, it gives flexibility not available in fixed pixel designs. I don&#8217;t agree with restricting content based on user device but instead progressive enhancements based on device support.<br
/> Screen readers read content in a linier fassion regardless of device, so weather you have 1 or 5 layout columns, I still get the content the same way, on a desktop, mobile and tablet.</p><p>Its an interesting discussion with no right or wrong answer but plenty of food for thought.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pawel</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085763</link> <dc:creator>Pawel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085763</guid> <description><![CDATA[each reasonable browser should have the option to switch to desktop mode. Firefox mobile has the option, but it can&#039;t be set to default, which is really stupid because you have to turn it on each time you visit a page. Fortunately, there&#039;s an add-on that makes FF load desktop version by default.
Still, it wouldn&#039;t hurt to provide a button in the mobile version of your site to switch to the desktop version. It&#039;s not much hassle, is it?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>each reasonable browser should have the option to switch to desktop mode. Firefox mobile has the option, but it can&#8217;t be set to default, which is really stupid because you have to turn it on each time you visit a page. Fortunately, there&#8217;s an add-on that makes FF load desktop version by default.<br
/> Still, it wouldn&#8217;t hurt to provide a button in the mobile version of your site to switch to the desktop version. It&#8217;s not much hassle, is it?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nick Young</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085662</link> <dc:creator>Nick Young</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 17:35:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085662</guid> <description><![CDATA[Ah yes I had not considered that it just would change the user agent. That is a very good point!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes I had not considered that it just would change the user agent. That is a very good point!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aaron</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085653</link> <dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 15:45:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085653</guid> <description><![CDATA[I keep bugging my 5 year old daughter to sit up straight when eating breakfast. Seconds later she&#039;s leaning in, hunched over, trying to read a story on the iPad. I don’t want her to have back problems. I&#039;m visiting my mom and it bugs me to watch her place an iTouch inches from her eyeballs in order to read copy. Many times, my daughter is snuggling with me on the couch and an arm is under her. My other arm holds the device while the thumb is used to navigate the Note II. When we need to zoom in, I have to make a choice between making my daughter uncomfortable by removing my other arm. Or, I have to set the phone down on my lap and awkwardly try to zoom in—zoom out—while the phone slides around—multiple times during daddy daughter time. Rrrr! I can imagine those with missing fingers or an arm go through this many times a day.
Then there are the days I see a screenshot of a well-designed website featured on TechCrunch. I visit the site with my smartphone and quickly notice it&#039;s responsive and I become frustrated. I wanted to view the desktop version! Now I have to fire up my desktop to get a closer look at it and see if it’s worth saving to Evernote. That’s a lot of work when your whole family is chillaxing on the deck and enjoying the beautiful weather. Then again, my purpose of visiting the site was not to buy the product, only to learn why the screenshot caught my attention.
What I am noticing is, my family and I tend to re-engage with content that doesn&#039;t make us uncomfortable.  Responsible RWD is here for good. I’m hoping the option to switch between desktop and mobile becomes a standard feature built into all devices, smartphones to desktops, and works similar to Responsive Inspector http://outof.me/responsive-inspector-beta-released/.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep bugging my 5 year old daughter to sit up straight when eating breakfast. Seconds later she&#8217;s leaning in, hunched over, trying to read a story on the iPad. I don’t want her to have back problems. I&#8217;m visiting my mom and it bugs me to watch her place an iTouch inches from her eyeballs in order to read copy. Many times, my daughter is snuggling with me on the couch and an arm is under her. My other arm holds the device while the thumb is used to navigate the Note II. When we need to zoom in, I have to make a choice between making my daughter uncomfortable by removing my other arm. Or, I have to set the phone down on my lap and awkwardly try to zoom in—zoom out—while the phone slides around—multiple times during daddy daughter time. Rrrr! I can imagine those with missing fingers or an arm go through this many times a day.</p><p>Then there are the days I see a screenshot of a well-designed website featured on TechCrunch. I visit the site with my smartphone and quickly notice it&#8217;s responsive and I become frustrated. I wanted to view the desktop version! Now I have to fire up my desktop to get a closer look at it and see if it’s worth saving to Evernote. That’s a lot of work when your whole family is chillaxing on the deck and enjoying the beautiful weather. Then again, my purpose of visiting the site was not to buy the product, only to learn why the screenshot caught my attention.</p><p>What I am noticing is, my family and I tend to re-engage with content that doesn&#8217;t make us uncomfortable.  Responsible RWD is here for good. I’m hoping the option to switch between desktop and mobile becomes a standard feature built into all devices, smartphones to desktops, and works similar to Responsive Inspector <a
href="http://outof.me/responsive-inspector-beta-released/" rel="nofollow">http://outof.me/responsive-inspector-beta-released/</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nicholas Johnson</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085637</link> <dc:creator>Nicholas Johnson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 13:18:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085637</guid> <description><![CDATA[So my point is that there&#039;s already a switch, if your tech savvy enough to install the right browsers and plugins.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So my point is that there&#8217;s already a switch, if your tech savvy enough to install the right browsers and plugins.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nicholas Johnson</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085636</link> <dc:creator>Nicholas Johnson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 13:17:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085636</guid> <description><![CDATA[Absolutely, and natural selection will take care of such sites for us. Sorry for the rant. People get so carried away with cool presentation that they forget their content. Another gripe is the constant popups from sites advertising that they now have an app.
There is a lack of understanding out there, that the dash for mobile need not be complex or costly. If the HTML has been made well it&#039;s usually as simple as 10 lines of code.
Firefox mobile allows you to request a desktop view in those situations where a designer has made a complete hash of the thing.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, and natural selection will take care of such sites for us. Sorry for the rant. People get so carried away with cool presentation that they forget their content. Another gripe is the constant popups from sites advertising that they now have an app.</p><p>There is a lack of understanding out there, that the dash for mobile need not be complex or costly. If the HTML has been made well it&#8217;s usually as simple as 10 lines of code.</p><p>Firefox mobile allows you to request a desktop view in those situations where a designer has made a complete hash of the thing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Craig Buckler</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085632</link> <dc:creator>Craig Buckler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 13:01:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085632</guid> <description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think there is a &quot;best for the client&quot; solution. It doesn&#039;t matter what you do: you can&#039;t keep 100% of users happy 100% of the time.
Overall, I think RWD is a viable option for the majority of users and makes a site easier to use on a small screen. If it doesn&#039;t, I&#039;d suggest it&#039;s the approach that&#039;s failed -- not the technology.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there is a &#8220;best for the client&#8221; solution. It doesn&#8217;t matter what you do: you can&#8217;t keep 100% of users happy 100% of the time.</p><p>Overall, I think RWD is a viable option for the majority of users and makes a site easier to use on a small screen. If it doesn&#8217;t, I&#8217;d suggest it&#8217;s the approach that&#8217;s failed &#8212; not the technology.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Craig Buckler</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085629</link> <dc:creator>Craig Buckler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 12:57:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085629</guid> <description><![CDATA[Thanks Nick.
The &quot;desktop view&quot; implemented in mobile browsers normally changes the useragent string and removes the term &quot;mobile&quot; (or similar). However, RWD doesn&#039;t care about the UA -- it responds to the available resolution.
I do expect you&#039;re right that most people simply won&#039;t notice or care. It&#039;ll only people apparent if you&#039;re running a massively popular website with regular visitors who use a range of devices.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nick.</p><p>The &#8220;desktop view&#8221; implemented in mobile browsers normally changes the useragent string and removes the term &#8220;mobile&#8221; (or similar). However, RWD doesn&#8217;t care about the UA &#8212; it responds to the available resolution.</p><p>I do expect you&#8217;re right that most people simply won&#8217;t notice or care. It&#8217;ll only people apparent if you&#8217;re running a massively popular website with regular visitors who use a range of devices.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Craig Buckler</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085627</link> <dc:creator>Craig Buckler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 12:53:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085627</guid> <description><![CDATA[Hi Allan -- you&#039;re just down the road from me!
The site appears to work well. Do you know how much use it gets?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Allan &#8212; you&#8217;re just down the road from me!</p><p>The site appears to work well. Do you know how much use it gets?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Allan Macfadyen</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085612</link> <dc:creator>Allan Macfadyen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 09:40:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085612</guid> <description><![CDATA[When we added RWD media queries to our 2 year old http://www.torbay.gov.uk/ design, we added &quot;desktop view&quot; and &quot;mobile view&quot; links. (We haven&#039;t added RWD to our electronic forms yet - we need to consider Google Maps, text areas and form labels first.) We used &quot;view&quot; to emphasise it is not a separate site.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we added RWD media queries to our 2 year old <a
href="http://www.torbay.gov.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.torbay.gov.uk/</a> design, we added &#8220;desktop view&#8221; and &#8220;mobile view&#8221; links. (We haven&#8217;t added RWD to our electronic forms yet &#8211; we need to consider Google Maps, text areas and form labels first.) We used &#8220;view&#8221; to emphasise it is not a separate site.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nick Young</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085606</link> <dc:creator>Nick Young</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 07:39:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085606</guid> <description><![CDATA[I vote we leave it to the operating system of the device. I have not run into many issues looking at mobile sites but when I do I can easily (on my current android phone) open the menu and switch to desktop view. I see that as an appropriate solution.
I also agree with Craig&#039;s comment about most of the arguments here being made by us who understand and know what RWD is. I honestly don&#039;t believe that the majority of your user base will notice the difference besides the fact that it is easy to use on each of their devices.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote we leave it to the operating system of the device. I have not run into many issues looking at mobile sites but when I do I can easily (on my current android phone) open the menu and switch to desktop view. I see that as an appropriate solution.</p><p>I also agree with Craig&#8217;s comment about most of the arguments here being made by us who understand and know what RWD is. I honestly don&#8217;t believe that the majority of your user base will notice the difference besides the fact that it is easy to use on each of their devices.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Craig Buckler</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085605</link> <dc:creator>Craig Buckler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 07:01:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085605</guid> <description><![CDATA[I totally agree, Nicholas. However, the comments here indicate RWD is being used badly on the web.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, Nicholas. However, the comments here indicate RWD is being used badly on the web.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Craig Buckler</title><link>http://www.sitepoint.com/disable-responsive-design-option/#comment-1085604</link> <dc:creator>Craig Buckler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 07:00:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sitepoint.com/?p=65065#comment-1085604</guid> <description><![CDATA[Thanks J. Can you post some URLs. It would be interesting to see how RWD is being used in the wild so we can learn from them and make constructive suggestions.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks J. Can you post some URLs. It would be interesting to see how RWD is being used in the wild so we can learn from them and make constructive suggestions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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